Neglected Chinese Elm

wrcmad · Post by **wrcmad** » July 16th, 2016, 4:18 pm

Homer911 wrote:I would also be interested in seeing it in winter. It would be good to see the growth and ramification.

Here it is today:

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And from above:

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Kevin · Post by **Kevin** » July 16th, 2016, 4:38 pm

Hello wrcmad,

Absolutely beautiful tree.

Thanks,
Kevin

Ryceman3 · Post by **Ryceman3** » July 16th, 2016, 5:16 pm

The only thing this tree is missing is a pot!!

wrcmad · Post by **wrcmad** » July 16th, 2016, 5:24 pm

Ryceman3 wrote:The only thing this tree is missing is a pot!!

I have the pot!

The tree just needs another 12 months of root reduction/development to fit the root ball in.

Ryceman3 · Post by **Ryceman3** » July 16th, 2016, 5:45 pm

wrcmad wrote:
Ryceman3 wrote:The only thing this tree is missing is a pot!!
I have the pot!
The tree just needs another 12 months of root reduction/development to fit the root ball in.

Sweet!

delisea · Post by **delisea** » July 16th, 2016, 5:52 pm

Sweet tree. Can you manually defoliate these guys?
I can't believe YOU would have a pot already picked

. What kiln is it from?

wrcmad · Post by **wrcmad** » July 16th, 2016, 6:18 pm

delisea wrote:I can't believe YOU would have a pot already picked . What kiln is it from?

1st generation Yamaaki.
I love Yamaaki pots.
Here it is:

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Grainer · Post by **Grainer** » July 16th, 2016, 7:11 pm

nice tree

Homer911 · Post by **Homer911** » July 16th, 2016, 8:27 pm

Nice!! Shame its not fully naked to see the ramification.

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delisea · Post by **delisea** » July 17th, 2016, 9:50 am

Great pot, do we really need to wait a year before you get the tree in it. I don't think I have the patience for this game.
Cheers, Symon.

Post by **Steven** » July 17th, 2016, 12:48 pm

Nice tree and excellent pot! Can't wait to see them together.
Regards,
Steven

wrcmad · Post by **wrcmad** » July 27th, 2016, 8:17 pm

Update:

24 months since this tree was a bare stump, and right on cue, bud swell began this week (last week of July).
The roots had the second half of the major reduction work done, again using a chainsaw, and the root ball is now shallow enough for potting next year. Last year's chainsaw wounds were brushed with rooting hormone immediately after the cuts were made, and roots had sprouted well - this area will be tidied up next year with a grinder to reduce the scarring on the underside of the trunk by about another 15-20mm to get the root ball as shallow as possible. The tree was potted into a smaller training box this year - same width and girth as it's final pot, just a bit deeper to try and stimulate root recovery after the heavy work.

All branches were tidied up, and lot of messy growth was removed back to the basic branching framework - this serves to balance the foliage removed with the roots removed, to select the most desirable tertiary branch structure, remove any overly-thick tertiary branching, and to stimulate a lot of budding for further ramification and pad shaping. This year's goal will be to work on branch pad shape and silhouette.

The grafted branch will not be trimmed back until bud burst has extended a couple of inches to make sure sap is flowing well - it is still a long, flailing branch at the rear of this tree.

A little bare at the moment, the flaws in the upper trunk at an old chop wound will be camouflaged much better once foliage starts to fill out.

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Homer911 wrote:Nice!! Shame its not fully naked to see the ramification.

Tried to get a couple of shots of the ramification after thinning - this is about as bare as the foliage gets on this tree.

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Cheers

delisea · Post by **delisea** » July 28th, 2016, 9:37 am

I love this tree. It is going to be exciting to see how you develop the fine ramification.
It appears for the photos that a many of the cuts result in one branch/bud growing rather than two. Is this by design or a quirk of this species?

wrcmad · Post by **wrcmad** » July 28th, 2016, 3:32 pm

delisea wrote: It appears for the photos that a many of the cuts result in one branch/bud growing rather than two. Is this by design or a quirk of this species?

It is a result of cutting new growth before it hardens off (in my experience).
I have found that usually, if a shoot is trimmed before hardening off, one terminal bud will result.
If the shoot is left to harden off and then cut, multiple buds will shoot.
In the case of this tree, it was a result of "hair cutting" at the end of last growing season to keep it under control.
The fair cut back given to this tree recently should result in a lot of new buds.

Homer911 · Post by **Homer911** » July 28th, 2016, 7:08 pm

delisea wrote:I love this tree. It is going to be exciting to see how you develop the fine ramification.
It appears for the photos that a many of the cuts result in one branch/bud growing rather than two. Is this by design or a quirk of this species?

Yeah, I noticed the same. a lot of single branches there. Also, I would try to get some growth covering the middle trunk. Its very large and non-tapered and look out of place. I know there are a lot of people who like to expose the trunk from the front but I don't see this as natural. A glimps here and there is nice but the entire front is artificial personally. I understand that you have trimmed the tree and this is the reason, it will fill in.

It is amazing that most of this growth is only 2 years old. Great effort mate, a tree to be proud of.

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