Squamata Styling

xIIRevoEvoS · Post by **xIIRevoEvoS** » March 28th, 2015, 9:16 pm

Bought from Auburn Community Market Day and would like to know what peoples opinion on styling as well as pot.
Trunkline is in a informal upright form.

Daluke · Post by **Daluke** » March 29th, 2015, 5:56 am

Seems like you have a few options!

I found an image online I hope you like.

Elmar · Post by **Elmar** » March 29th, 2015, 8:48 am

Big RE,

if you could do individual pics it would be so much better to see what is going on! The multi-shot is very difficult to focus and see anything clearly. There are a lot of examples out there but without being able to see the "Trees" structure properly, it would deb very hard for us (read 'me') to offer any suggestions ...

I found an option to reduce the size of the pics I upload under the "save as" sub-menu. Most of my initial frustration came form the file size when I first started to share....

Post by **kcpoole** » March 29th, 2015, 9:48 am

Hard to see the trunkline in the compilation image

Post individual ones and if you ca pull the foliage back to show the trunkline would be good.

If you need check here on how to Resize images
https://www.ausbonsai.com.au/wiki/index. ... lay_online

Ken

xIIRevoEvoS · Post by **xIIRevoEvoS** » March 29th, 2015, 12:35 pm

Here it is - taken on a iphone 4 instead of dslr. Don't mind the gloves but it was prickly
Images 1 - 5 are from the base and close to the apex.
6-7 is apex of the tree and 7 forks out 2 ways which go down

xIIRevoEvoS · Post by **xIIRevoEvoS** » March 29th, 2015, 12:36 pm

Daluke wrote:Seems like you have a few options!

I found an image online I hope you like.

Looks good but I would create a shari on the trunk if I had to do this style

xIIRevoEvoS · Post by **xIIRevoEvoS** » March 29th, 2015, 12:38 pm

I was think about Leongs design http://www.bonsaisouth.com.au/bonsai/in ... a-bonsai-2
Looks good and compact but it looks like a dwarf specie of the squamata

Which picture from the collage be an ideal front?

Elmar · Post by **Elmar** » March 29th, 2015, 1:55 pm

Just went over these a couple of times and pic 4 has an amazing thickness!

I'd start with cleaning out the dead leaves and, perhaps some of the lower branch leaves to clear out the main branch - essentially to expose the branch structure. Once you can see that you can make a plan on how to get to the tree that Leong made.

Also look at the piste by shibiu and Kez as they are the main Juniper workers (that come to mind)...

Cheers
Elmar

Edit- hit the wrong button!

xIIRevoEvoS · Post by **xIIRevoEvoS** » March 29th, 2015, 4:49 pm

CoGRedeMptioN wrote:Just went over these a couple of times and pic 4 has an amazing thickness!

I'd start with cleaning out the dead leaves and, perhaps some of the lower branch leaves to clear out the main branch - essentially to expose the branch structure. Once you can see that you can make a plan on how to get to the tree that Leong made.

Also look at the piste by shibiu and Kez as they are the main Juniper workers (that come to mind)...

Cheers
Elmar

Edit- hit the wrong button!

I plan on clearing the bottom part of the trunk and the remaining 2/3 as foliage.

Just got to wait for Shibui, Kez and Ken for their advice before I start.

kez · Post by **kez** » March 29th, 2015, 5:15 pm

Definitely clean out dead interior branches and anything too short or weak.

Once you have cleaned it out you can either move ahead with styling or if your still unsure leave it for a while, cleaning it out will allow light and air to enter the interior and strengthen the tree so it will be good for the tree no matter what your next move is.

if you move ahead with styling then you need to find your front, this will be a combination of the best trunk movement and line base to tip. It might also mean the best front taking into account good and bad points to get the best overall compromise.

Once you have your front try and determine where your first main branch is and what direction it will move. This will define your tree and allow you to work out what else needs to be kept/cut away.

Wire and set your structure once you know what your keeping, then fine wire for detail and pad placement.

Hope this helps, post us some pics once its cleaned before you make any more decisions and we can help from there

xIIRevoEvoS · Post by **xIIRevoEvoS** » March 29th, 2015, 5:17 pm

kez wrote:Definitely clean out dead interior branches and anything too short or weak.

Once you have cleaned it out you can either move ahead with styling or if your still unsure leave it for a while, cleaning it out will allow light and air to enter the interior and strengthen the tree so it will be good for the tree no matter what your next move is.

if you move ahead with styling then you need to find your front, this will be a combination of the best trunk movement and line base to tip. It might also mean the best front taking into account good and bad points to get the best overall compromise.

Once you have your front try and determine where your first main branch is and what direction it will move. This will define your tree and allow you to work out what else needs to be kept/cut away.

Wire and set your structure once you know what your keeping, then fine wire for detail and pad placement.

Hope this helps, post us some pics once its cleaned before you make any more decisions and we can help from there

Will do

xIIRevoEvoS · Post by **xIIRevoEvoS** » March 30th, 2015, 3:58 pm

Something that I wanted to look like but not exactly - inspiration. http://www.kaizenbonsai.com/blog/wp-con ... iper02.jpg

This is my first styling from a well develop stock and opinions are appreciated on where I should head.
Still haven't complete the design yet since I spent 1 hour looking for the front position which is what you see "After".

xIIRevoEvoS · Post by **xIIRevoEvoS** » March 30th, 2015, 6:44 pm

Jarad · Post by **Jarad** » March 30th, 2015, 7:02 pm

Hey Mate, it still looks really top heavy. Will you be thinning out the top more?

I feel your pain though, I made some big cuts, thinned it out quite a bit it needs more work but I haven't got a clue what else to do.

xIIRevoEvoS · Post by **xIIRevoEvoS** » March 30th, 2015, 7:52 pm

Jarad wrote:Hey Mate, it still looks really top heavy. Will you be thinning out the top more?

I feel your pain though, I made some big cuts, thinned it out quite a bit it needs more work but I haven't got a clue what else to do.

Haven't thought about thinning the top but will think abit more on Thursday.

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