Mel. something something.
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Mel. something something.
I have had this tree for the past year. I got it in a sad state. Since getting it, I have worked on getting more growth and getting some sort of branching.
I have my chosen front, but I now need to get an apex, something that has been bothering me for awhile now.
I look at it, but cant figure out what to keep, what to wire and what to remove.
Any thoughts?
I have my chosen front, but I now need to get an apex, something that has been bothering me for awhile now.
I look at it, but cant figure out what to keep, what to wire and what to remove.
Any thoughts?
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Re: Mel. something something.
Which of the 3 pics is your chosen Front?
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Re: Mel. something something.
The bottom one. It has the little tag in front.
I need the cut wound to heal up. Its on the way, its why the growth is there atm.
it will be a literati, and from talking to people about it, it should be a nice one.
I just need to get an apex. Something I don't know much on...
I need the cut wound to heal up. Its on the way, its why the growth is there atm.
it will be a literati, and from talking to people about it, it should be a nice one.
I just need to get an apex. Something I don't know much on...
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Re: Mel. something something.
Have a read of this article. Your questions will be answered!Asus101 wrote:I just need to get an apex. Something I don't know much on...
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Re: Mel. something something.
Asus I have said in the past and I will no doubt say in the future, do not think APEX, think Crown, apex has the connotation of top and in some cases point .
So with that in mind we seem to struggle with the concept. So in a crown we see more of a round dome like mine!! mature. So that is what you create wire the branches and the move them into position. I hope this helps you along the devine path to enlightenment Asus get seriuos with the CROWN
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So with that in mind we seem to struggle with the concept. So in a crown we see more of a round dome like mine!! mature. So that is what you create wire the branches and the move them into position. I hope this helps you along the devine path to enlightenment Asus get seriuos with the CROWN
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Re: Mel. something something.
But the Americans think apex, so talking with them I get into a pattern....
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Re: Mel. something something.
i tend to agree to some point pup,Pup wrote: do not think APEX, think Crown, apex has the connotation of top and in some cases point .
and i think the top of the tree can be referred to as the apex.
but... the CANOPY (in my mind) is like your crown, i think.
if the canopy is lower than the top of the tree, ie a kink in the trunk at the top of a cascade, then the trunk is the apex.
all the apex is to me, is the closest visual point to the sky.
the canopy may be the apex, it may not...
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Re: Mel. something something.
Ben I think this is Melaleuca Styphelioides which is water hungry as you said in a chat room. This is the species that the US used to drain the everglades and it proved to be a pest in that country. It is prone to attracting a certain type of wasp which can make it lose it's bark. It can have nice white flowers around February if not cut back. It also re-shoots easily on the trunk which gives new branches in a short time. This to me is a rewarding species for bonsai. Enjoy.
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Re: Mel. something something.
apex, crown, canopy, top of the tree, who bloody cares.....aaron_tas wrote:i tend to agree to some point pup,Pup wrote: do not think APEX, think Crown, apex has the connotation of top and in some cases point .
and i think the top of the tree can be referred to as the apex.
but... the CANOPY (in my mind) is like your crown, i think.
if the canopy is lower than the top of the tree, ie a kink in the trunk at the top of a cascade, then the trunk is the apex.
all the apex is to me, is the closest visual point to the sky.
the canopy may be the apex, it may not...
How bout I call it the "thinga at da top"?
Cheers ash, it really likes its water. In fact it didn't put new growth on for months untill I started standing it in water.
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Re: Mel. something something.
You asked for help on developing an Apex I gave my opinion.
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Re: Mel. something something.
Ok wise'o how would I go about setting a crown?
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Re: Mel. something something.
As I said smart ass wire the bloody thing.Asus101 wrote:Ok wise'o how would I go about setting a crown?
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Re: Mel. something something.
If your so worried about it :p give it to me, I'll put a crown on it
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Re: Mel. something something.
Pup old friend, I have wire on the main top branches now. i havn't moved any of the branches though, as I was going to fine wire the remaining.
Ill post some pictures tomorrow if possible, as i don't think I did too bad on the wire for my third attempt.
Ill post some pictures tomorrow if possible, as i don't think I did too bad on the wire for my third attempt.
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