Coir peat & coco peat same thing ?

Share your ideas on re-potting, potting mediums and fertilisers.
User avatar
stocaz
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 224
Joined: February 5th, 2013, 8:24 pm
Favorite Species: JBP
Location: Melbourne

Coir peat & coco peat same thing ?

Post by stocaz »

Hi all,
Is Coir peat & coco peat the same thing ?

Thanks Ross
User avatar
Pup
Knowledgeable rogue
Knowledgeable rogue
Posts: 6357
Joined: November 12th, 2008, 5:19 pm
Favorite Species: melaleucas
Bonsai Age: 31
Bonsai Club: Bonsai society of Western Australia
Location: Southern Suburbs of Perth Western Australia
Been thanked: 35 times
Contact:

Re: Coir peat & coco peat same thing ?

Post by Pup »

stocaz wrote:Hi all,
Is Coir peat & coco peat the same thing ?

Thanks Ross
YES
IN THE LIGHT OF KNOWLEDGE ATTAINED, ACHIEVEMENT IS WITHIN SIGHT

I am not a complete fool, some parts are missing
User avatar
stocaz
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 224
Joined: February 5th, 2013, 8:24 pm
Favorite Species: JBP
Location: Melbourne

Re: Coir peat & coco peat same thing ?

Post by stocaz »

Pup wrote:
stocaz wrote:Hi all,
Is Coir peat & coco peat the same thing ?

Thanks Ross
YES
Thanks :cool:
Paulneill
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 761
Joined: March 12th, 2011, 8:00 pm
Favorite Species: maple
Bonsai Age: 10
Location: Perth
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 5 times

Re: Coir peat & coco peat same thing ?

Post by Paulneill »

is it that fiberous materal ?. Is this a good addition to a potting mix?
User avatar
Damian Bee
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 1314
Joined: June 5th, 2009, 7:56 pm
Favorite Species: If it looks worthwhile I will give it a go.
Bonsai Age: 9
Bonsai Club: Bonsai Northwest
Location: Footscray
Been thanked: 1 time

Re: Coir peat & coco peat same thing ?

Post by Damian Bee »

There are different grades, fine right up to chunky, I have used the standard stuff with success in the past and have recently tried it out in mixes with coarse pumice and diatomite with promising results.

:whistle:
PS. Does anyone require 5-8mm pine nuggets?
I have a shirtload.
:whistle:
Last edited by Damian Bee on March 28th, 2013, 5:37 am, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
stocaz
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 224
Joined: February 5th, 2013, 8:24 pm
Favorite Species: JBP
Location: Melbourne

Re: Coir peat & coco peat same thing ?

Post by stocaz »

Damian Bee wrote:There are different grades, fine right up to chunky, I have used the standard stuff with success in the past and have recently tried it out in mixes with coarse pumice and diatomite with promising results.

:whistle:
PS. Does anyone require 5-8mm pine nuggets?
I have a shirtload.
:whistle:
Hey Damian, Ill grab some for sure ! Maybe early next week ?
Cheers Ross
User avatar
Brian
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 629
Joined: July 16th, 2011, 3:13 pm
Favorite Species: Radiata pine
Bonsai Age: 31
Bonsai Club: AusBonsai
Location: Inner Melbourne Australia

Re: Coir peat & coco peat same thing ?

Post by Brian »

yes please.
User avatar
Damian Bee
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 1314
Joined: June 5th, 2009, 7:56 pm
Favorite Species: If it looks worthwhile I will give it a go.
Bonsai Age: 9
Bonsai Club: Bonsai Northwest
Location: Footscray
Been thanked: 1 time

Re: Coir peat & coco peat same thing ?

Post by Damian Bee »

:whistle: I will put some aside :whistle:
roborthudson
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 6
Joined: February 8th, 2013, 9:45 pm
Bonsai Age: 0
Location: South Perth WA

Re: Coir peat & coco peat same thing ?

Post by roborthudson »

Coco Peat and coco coir both are same. They are obtained from coconut. These are Eco-Friendly products. They are very useful in plant growth. They work as a fertilizer. If you use it then you need minimum water and fertilizer in gardening.
roborthudson
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 6
Joined: February 8th, 2013, 9:45 pm
Bonsai Age: 0
Location: South Perth WA

Re: Coir peat & coco peat same thing ?

Post by roborthudson »

I would like to add some more information over here.Yes coco peat is and coco coir is a same thing. Coir peat is obtain from a coconut coir.Coco peat is waste and a excellent organic manure and soil conditioner appropriate to agricultural crops.I am using Bioactive Cocopeat from last 7 months. It is very helpful in plant growth. http://bioactivepeat.com.au/
User avatar
lackhand
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 808
Joined: January 10th, 2013, 9:42 am
Favorite Species: Japanese maple
Bonsai Age: 8
Bonsai Club: AusBonsai
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
Been thanked: 2 times

Re: Coir peat & coco peat same thing ?

Post by lackhand »

I'm not familiar with the exact product mentioned above and it looks like it is more than just coco peat, but what I have heard (and read on Wikipedia) suggests that plain coco peat is not a very good source of plant nutrients, and may even interfere with some. Breakdown requires nitrogen, and high potassium can interfere with magnesium absorption by the plant. It does a very good job with water retention while also allowing air to the roots though.

I've used it before with good results, just wanted to point out a few things to be aware of if you're planning on using coco peat. I would not count on it for its fertilizing benefits. :2c:
Cheers, Karl
roborthudson
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 6
Joined: February 8th, 2013, 9:45 pm
Bonsai Age: 0
Location: South Perth WA

Re: Coir peat & coco peat same thing ?

Post by roborthudson »

Yes they are used as a fertilizer. They increases the productivity of soil. As they are natural fertilizer.
User avatar
lackhand
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 808
Joined: January 10th, 2013, 9:42 am
Favorite Species: Japanese maple
Bonsai Age: 8
Bonsai Club: AusBonsai
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
Been thanked: 2 times

Re: Coir peat & coco peat same thing ?

Post by lackhand »

roborthudson wrote:Yes they are used as a fertilizer. They increases the productivity of soil. As they are natural fertilizer.
Mate, everything I can find says that coco peat has an NPK analysis of 0-0-0, which means it is a growing medium or soil additive and not a fertilizer. It may have some helpful micronutrients and may increase the quality of the soil in other ways, but not those required to be called a fertilizer. I have seen products that have other things such as manure added to the coir, but the fertilizing comes from the manure and not the coir. If you have a source or something that shows that coir is indeed a fertilizer then I'd be glad to know.

I hope this doesn't sound like I'm against use of coco peat - I have used it and I like it. But it's important to know what we can expect from the things we use to grow our plants. If we expect things to do more than they can, then we're just setting ourselves up for failure.
Cheers, Karl
User avatar
Pup
Knowledgeable rogue
Knowledgeable rogue
Posts: 6357
Joined: November 12th, 2008, 5:19 pm
Favorite Species: melaleucas
Bonsai Age: 31
Bonsai Club: Bonsai society of Western Australia
Location: Southern Suburbs of Perth Western Australia
Been thanked: 35 times
Contact:

Re: Coir peat & coco peat same thing ?

Post by Pup »

It is an inert medium. It is used as a soil additive to help moisture retention. It is NOT a fertiliser.
IN THE LIGHT OF KNOWLEDGE ATTAINED, ACHIEVEMENT IS WITHIN SIGHT

I am not a complete fool, some parts are missing
bamboos
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 197
Joined: November 6th, 2011, 6:13 pm
Favorite Species: natives , figs
Bonsai Age: 10
Location: brisbane
Been thanked: 1 time

Re: Coir peat & coco peat same thing ?

Post by bamboos »

I second lackhand and pup' s message. Coco peat is inert."bioactive peat" has fertiliser added ( this is from their website) and is good for 3 months.
Coco peat is used for water retention and aeration in bonsai mixes
Steve
Last edited by bamboos on April 19th, 2013, 12:02 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Post Reply

Return to “Repotting, Soil and Fertilisers”