Ground Growing VS Grow box

[fishnfreak]

Im chasing a comparison between planting trees (mainly figs, bougenvillea, maples) into the ground and planting into grow box's....
Which is preferred?

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[FruitFly]

I suppose it comes down to personal preference and the amount of time you intend to give the trees. As a newbie myself, I'm going to try both.

With a grow box you have more control over the roots as they are contained, but you may gain more vigour in the ground. I have a specific area that I'm turning into a "Pre Bonsai Garden" that will essentially be a raised garden bed of sorts. In this, I will plant a few various trees including maples and natives. Figs will go into a grow box as I'm in Canberra and they need to go into the greenhouse for winter. Still early days for me and I'm still organising myself.

At this point, I'm thinking that I might still be lifting the plants each year (or 2) to check and correct any root issues and simple "clip and grow" maintenance.

Cheers

[melbrackstone]

In my small yard I need to grow them in boxes or double pots so that they can be moved to get the sunlight. I have very little actual ground that's able to be planted, too many decks and concrete paths...

[Akhi]

Doesn't look like you have an option then. Nature is best so in ground is the way to go as the trees will bulk up quickly. But like me I am currently growing maples in grow pots due to lack of space.


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[kcpoole]

the ground is a little faster, but less convenient
If you can do both then

Ken

[shibui]

Don't think that either ground or box growing are sure bets. There are lots of things that can go wrong with either so not every tree you put in will be a winner.
When fast growing you may get a thick trunk quickly but also anything that goes wrong will be much quicker too
As well as thick trunks you can get: a few thick roots = terrible nebari; large pruning scars; overly thick branches; lack of trunk movement; and more.
Growing in boxes may be a fraction slower to achieve the same diameter but you will have more control over the process.
Can you grow ficus and bougies in the open in S.A.? Both are a bit sensitive to cold in winter.

By all means have a go but my advice is to also grow a few trees under more controlled pot conditions. It will take longer but in my experience the results are well worth the wait.

[Tambrand]

You can also determine if a tree/shrub needs the ground, growing box or just a bonsai pot.

We have two examples on our side ------- Ficus p, in a 1" deep pot on 10% by volume organic, with a 1 m branch will thicken
the trunk.
It's cousin the Chlorophora t, with a 1 m branch will thicken the branch, but not the trunk.

Additionally, when we ground grow we use a colander, as it makes removal and recovery much easier.

As to over thick surface roots, you can sweep off the soil on the roots and just cut to slow thickening.
Once again a colander makes this much easier.
Don't just plant and walk away.
Laters.
Tambrand

[fishnfreak]

Don't think that either ground or box growing are sure bets. There are lots of things that can go wrong with either so not every tree you put in will be a winner.
When fast growing you may get a thick trunk quickly but also anything that goes wrong will be much quicker too
As well as thick trunks you can get: a few thick roots = terrible nebari; large pruning scars; overly thick branches; lack of trunk movement; and more.
Growing in boxes may be a fraction slower to achieve the same diameter but you will have more control over the process.
Can you grow ficus and bougies in the open in S.A.? Both are a bit sensitive to cold in winter.

By all means have a go but my advice is to also grow a few trees under more controlled pot conditions. It will take longer but in my experience the results are well worth the wait.

Second winter with the bougy and first with the ficus...possibly bring them inside or construct a glasshouse.


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[Ray M]

Hi fishnfreak,
Tambrand mentioned Colanders. This is a thread I posted some time back on Colanders. This may give some ideas as well. Ground Plating in Colanders

This is another thread looking at double potting. Using Double Pots

Regards Ray