Chinese elm from Max Candy

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Chinese elm from Max Candy

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Hi all,

Max died in 2005 but I have just aquired this elm that he grew.

It was originally a tree in the ground growing on his investment propery that he owned in Sydney. anyhow it turned up in a pot; of course.
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I have just given it a trim and will post pics.

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Nice acquisition Grant, in a couple of season it will reward you for your diligence.

Thanks for posting.

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Pup wrote:Nice acquisition Grant, in a couple of season it will reward you for your diligence.

Thanks for posting.

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Hi Pup,

I am considering making a few changes. There are a number of branches that look like bicycle spokes.

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What better way to pay your friend respect then turning that tree into a masterpiece, i cant wait to see it in a few years time.
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I am finding the pre-owned trees alot of fun to work with. This looks like no exception.
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Lovely historical material Grant.
Have you had time to consider your next move?
Personally, I like something between + 20˚ and + 30˚. The base has a nice stable feel and the 'daughter' trunk is considerably separate and not obstructing the trunk.

Anymore good trees in the ground at his old investment property? :whistle:

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Grant Bowie wrote:Hi all,

Max died in 2005 but I have just aquired this elm that he grew.

It was originally a tree in the ground growing on his investment propery that he owned in Sydney. anyhow it turned up in a pot; of course.
Chinese elm from Max Candy.JPG
I have just given it a trim and will post pics.

Grant
hi Grant,
I'm new to this forum, but have kicked around this wonderful hobby for over 30 yrs, thanks to the fine teachings of Mr Lindsay Bebb, and the likes of Dot and Deb Koreshoff. It was uncanny that you posted this tree from the wonderful Max Candy, and was saddened to hear of his passing. I have not hadany connection with the Sydney crowd since moving up here to northern NSW 14 yrs ago. Max gave me my first Corky bark elm some 20 yrs ago. It was around 6 inches tall, and not real thick, but he said it will make a great looking bonsai one day.
Well the tree has been with me for all this time and has had numerous incarnations over the years, and has fathered a number of root cuttings, which are now quite nice trees on their own. The original Max Candy Elm however ended up in the ground finally, when we moved here onto 5 acres.....woohoo! At last I could now ground grow my stock, and this was one of the first trees to go in, along with around 20-30 Trident maples of varying sizes and stages of development. This winter was the time to get the 'Candy' corky bark elm out and into a box to start some serious training. I don't have any actual measurements but it's base is about 10'' across, an inch or so under the soil level, and the height is aprox. 12 inches. Very early days yet, but I will now grow this tree in Max's memory, and i'm sure it will make a great looking bonsai one day, as I'm sure your Max Candy Elm will too Grant. You've made a great start.
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I decided to lightly trim the tree.
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I decided to go further. The tree was trimmed on the 9th November and is strongly budding and elongating. I hope to keep the heritage features of the tree intact but give it a new lease of life.

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An American gentleman did a nice sketch of its possible outcome.
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Nice work, it was a nice tree but definitely needed a trim to remove those straight sections.

I have a similar tree that is getting the same treatment, although not as drastic.

Is there a reason that you went back to such small stubs? I decided it was best to cut half way along the branch (to the growth closest to the trunk) and as the new growth gets thicker and stronger I will take it back further.
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Scott Roxburgh wrote:Nice work, it was a nice tree but definitely needed a trim to remove those straight sections.

I have a similar tree that is getting the same treatment, although not as drastic.

Is there a reason that you went back to such small stubs? I decided it was best to cut half way along the branch (to the growth closest to the trunk) and as the new growth gets thicker and stronger I will take it back further.
Hi Scott,

Firstly I had to cut it back hard; half way was not enough to get rid of the spoke like look.

With this tree I am using the short stubs to dictate where the tree will bud and to maintain the overall feel that Max gave it. I sealed the cuts well so they would not dry out and they are budding nicely close to the end of the cut stubs

The old trunk will have old looking branches emerging from the trunk this way rather than the mere whips I would have got if I had cut the tree right back to the trunk.

I will now trim in a clip and grow way rather than use any wire.

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Scott Roxburgh wrote::bump:
hi Scott,

The tree survived the hard cut back and has had 2 or 3 trims since the cut back. I am training in Clip and Grow so it is slow work.

The lower trunk initially only put out 1 bud but has just within the last few days started putting out another at the tip of the lower trunk.

I am saving pics for a bit of a progression.

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Scott Roxburgh wrote::bump:
hi Scott,

The tree survived the hard cut back and has had 2 or 3 trims since the cut back. I am training in Clip and Grow so it is slow work.

The lower trunk initially only put out 1 bud but has just within the last few days started putting out another at the tip of the lower trunk.

I am saving pics for a bit of a progression.

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Is that progression ready yet Grant?
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