Japanese maple from cutting.

[Kev0312]

Hi everyone.

Just like to share with you all I've successful rooted some Japanese maple from cutting (I think they are rooting).
What does everyone think? Are my wasting my time, as I posted this on fb and a fellow member has advise that it will die in 3-4 years time. Is this true?
Has anyone have experience in this matter?






Cheers

[FruitFly]

Hey Kev,

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[shibui]

I've successful rooted some Japanese maple from cutting (I think they are rooting).

Come on mate. Make up your mind.
I don't count my cuttings until I see the roots. Many cuttings will sprout leaves without growing roots down below. Of course, without roots they just die off after a few months.
It is possible to root Japanese maple cuttings but I find them quite difficult. Most seem to rot before making roots.

If you do get roots the tree will be fine. It will grow just the same as any other Japanese maple and there's no reason it won't live for many, many years as long as you look after it properly so good luck with these cuttings

[Kev0312]

I've successful rooted some Japanese maple from cutting (I think they are rooting).

Come on mate. Make up your mind.
I don't count my cuttings until I see the roots. Many cuttings will sprout leaves without growing roots down below. Of course, without roots they just die off after a few months.
It is possible to root Japanese maple cuttings but I find them quite difficult. Most seem to rot before making roots.

If you do get roots the tree will be fine. It will grow just the same as any other Japanese maple and there's no reason it won't live for many, many years as long as you look after it properly so good luck with these cuttings

Thank you for the advise shibui.

Still learning.

[itsfullofstars]

This is what my osakazuki cutting is doing right now.

Putting on flowers!

osakazuki_cutting.jpg

There are real buds coming on too. From other cuttings of the same tree.

osakazuki_cutting2.jpg

This is a cutting from a generic variety from 2 years ago.

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Leaves are almost completely out now.

I can only propagate these trees from cuttings or seeds. All my grafts failed again this year. 10+ grafts. Thread grafts, side veneer grafts, nothing works for me. Maybe the climate isn't good for grafting, but is good for cuttings!

[Mojo Moyogi]

Hi there,
It is very unusual that thread grafts failed, they are quite easy, especially on Maples, just a bit of technique involved.

During what season are you trying to TG? I have done TGs in Summer and Winter. There are advantages and disadvantages of both times.
Can you give details of your procedure?

I'm sure we can get you sorted

Cheers,
Mojo

[itsfullofstars]

My thread grafts were admittedly a bit brutal.

I don't have a rotary tool like a dremel, but i have a manual drill which is imprecise.
Basically drilled the hole, cleaned off some bark in the scion, then placed it in the hole and covered with some grafting sealant.

I'm guessing using the manual drill is the problem. It doesn't create a smooth hole, but a messy one.

[Mojo Moyogi]

I don't think that the manual drill is the problem.

There is no need to take any bark off the shoot that you thread through the hole in the trunk, that is 99.9% of the reason why your thread grafts have failed. The graft will take when the shoot is left to grow freely and it increases in diameter until it fuses to the exit hole.

Cheers,
Mojo

[Mojo Moyogi]

Oh yeah, and start your hole from the exit side of the trunk (from where the intended branch is going to exit the trunk) - heaps cleaner.

Cheers,
Mojo

[Kev0312]

This is what my osakazuki cutting is doing right now.

Putting on flowers!

osakazuki_cutting.jpg

There are real buds coming on too. From other cuttings of the same tree.

osakazuki_cutting2.jpg

This is a cutting from a generic variety from 2 years ago.

WP_20170907_09_52_54_Rich2.jpg

Leaves are almost completely out now.

I can only propagate these trees from cuttings or seeds. All my grafts failed again this year. 10+ grafts. Thread grafts, side veneer grafts, nothing works for me. Maybe the climate isn't good for grafting, but is good for cuttings!

Nice work mate.

Lots of my cutting a showing sign of life ATM.
My only concern like shibui said it might not root.

Has all your rooted mate?

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[shibui]

The 2yo is almost certainly fine now. All those leaves must have something to keep them going so The others are still maybe but
Maples are relatively easy to graft so we should be able to get you some success without too much trouble.
Thread grafting: as Mojo said, don't ringbark your scion. It won't live long enough to unite. Thread grafts will work even without taking any bark off but it does take a bit longer. Quicker way is to just take a sliver of bark off one side of the scion where it will come out of the hole in the rootstock. Then insert a wedge (or something) to press the peeled edge against the side of the hole before sealing the area. Both cuts should callus and join up pretty quick. I use a manual drill for all my thread grafts. Does not seem to be a big problem here.

Has anyone seen any threads with good photos of grafting process? Maybe start one?

[kcpoole]

Hey Kev,

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that is why they should be uploaded to the site rather than hosted offsite

Ken