Graeme wrote:Loving the snapshot of your trees Andrew. A thought that just occurred to me and I thought I'd ask. You seem to not have to much trouble collecting your Olives. Are they a pest plant in and around Cape Town? I ask because they are considered such here in Australia in a couple of places. I know in Adelaide South Australia they are a declared pest and can be found throughout Adelaide, growing wildly in many of the parks and reserves around the City (thankfully A few years ago I remember it was part of the 'Work-for-the-Dole" scheme that teams of people used to go out and cut them down and poison the stumps in an attempt to get rid of them. Again, thankfully, it didn't work and there are still good numbers of trees for the Bonsai enthusiast to go out and dig up.
Hi Graeme, I hav e two sources for olives. One is a farm where there are plans to bulldoze an area for grazing, and we have permission to dig/save what we can. The other is a local stud where I go once a year and collect a tree or two in exchange for doing a bit of alien clearing. Olives are local, so they are certainly not clasified as weeds!
Neli wrote:
Andrew,
I feel you should lower the right branch of the trident, not the left one. so you can give it some movement at the same time... But what do I know??? I shall look for some example for you.
Olive looks good!
Look forward to seeing what you come up with Neli . . . . .
Darling,
I looked and looked...and all the trees I found with similar shape and slant...had the right branch like yours...So that must be the correct position...Newbie here
Then I checked C Seronio's book...and he also says the same...
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Neli wrote:
Andrew,
I feel you should lower the right branch of the trident, not the left one. so you can give it some movement at the same time... But what do I know??? I shall look for some example for you.
Olive looks good!
Look forward to seeing what you come up with Neli . . . . .
Darling,
I looked and looked...and all the trees I found with similar shape and slant...had the right branch like yours...So that must be the correct position...Newbie here
Then I checked C Seronio's book...and he also says the same...
Hey Neli, I guess that's the wonder of bonsai - as much art as horticulture, and whilst the horticulture bit is reasonably tied down, the art bit is entirely subjective. Cool huh!
Andy,
should your tree be considered slanting or informal upright...or both?
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Neli wrote:Andy,
should your tree be considered slanting or informal upright...or both?
Which one Neli? As I understand it, an informal upright's apex should end pretty much directly above it's nebari. A slanting tree has an apex that ends up off center, meaning that a line you draw from the base to the tip has a definite angle from vertical, but ending above the pot lip height. I see no point in this type of clasification other than a description of a tree, and I don't see the point in forcing a tree to a style. The style should be incidental and the tree determines where it ends up.
Neli wrote:Andy,
should your tree be considered slanting or informal upright...or both?
Which one Neli? As I understand it, an informal upright's apex should end pretty much directly above it's nebari. A slanting tree has an apex that ends up off center, meaning that a line you draw from the base to the tip has a definite angle from vertical, but ending above the pot lip height. I see no point in this type of clasification other than a description of a tree, and I don't see the point in forcing a tree to a style. The style should be incidental and the tree determines where it ends up.
Cheerio,
Andrew
I mean the maple...now I see it is not slanting...then you can bring the branch a bit down...I like that maple of yours...
I dont believe in the tree growing the way it wants...almost like the hedge method ...not for me...I like control!!!!
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Baby olive update - into it's final pot yesterday. Still got a lot of tidying up of foliage to do, and some wiring to get branches just right, but progress . . . .
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Happy days!
Andrew
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dansai wrote:Looking very nice Andrew. I like your tree very much.
Is the photo taken from what you consider the front? And if so, why is the pot on an angle?
Keep up the excellent work. And will follow this post to see your progress.
Thanks mate - got the angle slightly wrong, but it was a bit of a squeaze so I'll get it just right on the next repotting once it is used to the smaller pot. The intended front is the traingular series of bumps.
Isitangus wrote:Great tree and I adore that pot.can you provide any details on it please
Thanks mate. Pot is from Stone Monkey Ceramics in the UK. Cost me about £35. Andy is no longer doing bonsai pottery, but you could try and see what he still has left.
The tree actually needs to lean a bit more forwards too, so some work to do still.
A few updates today and this weekend. The olive (3rd pic on Page 1) is filling out nicely and is now in it's new home. Still has a few problems like the reverse taper at the base, and the branches should really be brought in a bit. I'm considering lopping off the top as well, but here it is now.
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The cascade juniper has also made it and is looking nice 'n wooly! Time to get the scissors in there and start cleaning out a bit before it starts to shade itself out.
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Cheers,
Andrew
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A few years ago I remember it was part of the 'Work-for-the-Dole" scheme that teams of people used to go out and cut them down and poison the stumps in an attempt to get rid of them. Again, thankfully, it didn't work and there are still good numbers of trees for the Bonsai enthusiast to go out and dig up.
...not for me...I like control!!!! 
how can it be on and angle? it is a round pot?
