Fastest growing juniper?

[Reece]

I'm in the process of building a very large (probably a 2 to 3 person lift) Tanuki. I'm prepping the Deadwood and I want to start the graft this spring.

Call me mad but I had the idea of growing a fast growing junper around the Deadwood to build the basic structure for the next 10 or 20 years and then grafting a more desirable shimpaku or Kishu etc to it to refine it at the end.

What do you guys think of this idea? I feel if I start with shimpaku it will take FOREVER and might not even get there at all!

I was thinking of using normal sargentii for the original phoenix graft because I've heard these are fast.....

Overall thoughts appreciated!

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[literati79]

I've been thinking of a similar thing. I've seen some good Junipers online that have had another tree's foliage grafted onto the original stock.

There are faster growing Chinese Junipers that would be suitable. The names escape me though. I'm sure someone will know.

I wonder if J. squamata would work as a stock???

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[Pearcy001]

I believe Neil (Shibui) has had some success with something similar, not a Tanuki but. He showed me when I dropped in his way a wile back. Grafts healed up very well from memory. Maybe he can chime in with some advice if I'm not completely mistaken.

Cheers,
Pearcy.

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[Reece]

Thanks Guys. Yeah Squamata could be an option too. Will all junipers graft to each other? (Scratches head)

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[shibui]

My grafted juniper came about because I had grown some fast growing junipers. I'm not even sure of the species or variety but they are blue/green, have spiky needle foliage and upright pyramid habit. maybe someone can provide an ID?

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I ended up with some great trunks but difficult to train branches and a pain to work with because of the spiky foliage.
In the end I decided to try grafting shimpaku on. Straight grafts failed but approach grafts worked fine.

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Juniper approach graft 1.JPG

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Most people don't see the grafts now. Most of them are difficult to see even when I've pointed out the branches are all grafted. I'll need to take some updated pictures.

[Pup]

My grafted juniper came about because I had grown some fast growing junipers. I'm not even sure of the species or variety but they are blue/green, have spiky needle foliage and upright pyramid habit. maybe someone can provide an ID?

PICT0375.JPG

I ended up with some great trunks but difficult to train branches and a pain to work with because of the spiky foliage.
In the end I decided to try grafting shimpaku on. Straight grafts failed but approach grafts worked fine.

PICT0370.JPG

Juniper approach graft 1.JPG

PICT0374.JPG

Most people don't see the grafts now. Most of them are difficult to see even when I've pointed out the branches are all grafted. I'll need to take some updated pictures.

Possibly Juniper Africana pyramadalis, had some many moons ago they were fast growing. I have only said possible not positive!!!!!

Cheers Pup

[Reece]

My grafted juniper came about because I had grown some fast growing junipers. I'm not even sure of the species or variety but they are blue/green, have spiky needle foliage and upright pyramid habit. maybe someone can provide an ID?

PICT0375.JPG

I ended up with some great trunks but difficult to train branches and a pain to work with because of the spiky foliage.
In the end I decided to try grafting shimpaku on. Straight grafts failed but approach grafts worked fine.

PICT0370.JPG

Juniper approach graft 1.JPG

PICT0374.JPG

Most people don't see the grafts now. Most of them are difficult to see even when I've pointed out the branches are all grafted. I'll need to take some updated pictures.

Possibly Juniper Africana pyramadalis, had some many moons ago they were fast growing. I have only said possible not positive!!!!!

Cheers Pup

Haha cheers guys!

This is all great info and it looks like what Im thinking of could definitely be an option.........

[peterb]

Hi Guys
Just a question, if one grafts shimpaku to squamata , would it still be susceptible to the fungal infection that squamata is prone to get.
cheers
peterb

[shibui]

I assume the squamata fungal infection is on the leaves? In that case when there are no squamata leaves they can't get infected. If it is a trunk/root/wood infection that's an entirely different thing.

Here are a few photos of my grafted juniper

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There are 2 grafts shown in this photo. Can you see the signs? I'm almost certain this is the same graft that was shown earlier in the thread labelled close up of approach grafts' with the date stamp 29-12-2009

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[peterb]

Wow, that's awesome Shibui. . It's almost impossible to see the grafts. When you approach grafted, did you remove the bark from scion when you put it in the channel of the rootstock. Thanks for info you so freely pass on to us Shibui, it's great for us noobs to be able to tap into your knowledge and experience. I think we all owe you a or 2
Cheers
Peterb

[Reece]

Yeah I'm with Peter. Great stuff! Definitely giving this a go....

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[shibui]

When you approach grafted, did you remove the bark from scion when you put it in the channel of the rootstock

Remove bark from both stock and scion - (only need to slice a strip of bark off the side of the scion that touches the stock). This is standard approach grafting. The cambium of both must make contact for grafting to take place but the beauty of approach grafting is that you don't need to line things up neatly. Both parts stay alive on their own roots until the callus from both the wounds healing comes into contact and grafting takes place.

[peterb]

Thanks Shibui, after seeing your results I'm seriously thinking about this for my large juni which has rather course foliage
Cheers
Peterb