Pine Propagation

[Daluke]

Having taken a few red pine cuttings a few weeks back I was surprised that one had roots forming (I had neglected them - they dried and died).

I've decided to try my hand at a few more and look after them better. Hopefully I'll have more luck.

Now I know lots of people say don't bother, but hey, what's there to lose?

Red pine = 30 cuttings
White pine = 30 cuttings
Scots pine = 20 cuttings

Will update when I remember.

[treeman]

You were lucky to strike red pine.
You will be extraordinarily fortunate to strike white pine!
Black are a bit easier but still difficult. Very young material (that is from young trees) is easier than older stuff.
I have read that treating cuttings with a strong alkaline solution before applying hormones will improve rooting. I have that info somewhere. I can look it up if you want it.

[Daluke]

Hi Mike, I've read a similar article.

I'm curious how where you get your pines from when they are baked?

[treeman]

Hi Mike, I've read a similar article.

I'm curious how where you get your pines from when they are baked?

Baked?

[Daluke]

Babies***

[treeman]

Oh Babies..... I grow from seed always. I get them from wherever I can. Although now I have mature black, red and scots pines in the garden which will give me seed soon.

[shibui]

I have variable success with pine cuttings. Sometimes up to 50 % other times 0.
The first white pine cutting I put in grew so I thought they were easier to strike. I know the Japanese grow 'zushio' exclusively from cuttings so some white pines must have the ability to root from cuttings.
I've been getting some roots on red pines, even from 2yo shoots. As Luke says, what have I got to lose? Especially when I can't source seed easily.

Juvenile growth certainly does root much easier so if you prune your pines and see those odd shoots they make the best cuttings. I have not seen the alkaline reference so would like to hear more Mike.

[Tambrand]

On our side, we can get 1 out of 5 hardwood cuttings [ this thick [ ] ] ----------------- using a peat moss / perlite / 5 mm gravel mix
,about 1/3 each by volume.

After viewing I believe - Shibui's feature - somehow, it accidentally ended up as hardwood cuttings.
Mostly luck and chance, just stick in rooting hormone, and then stick in disposable 8 cm styro food containers,
With the above soil mix.
Then place in full sun.

We no longer have to use seeds and can propagate from the better stock.

BY the way if it was Shibui showing the technique ------- Thank a Million!!!!!!!!!
Even at 1 rooted cutting out of 5 an overload is expected.
Laters
Tambrand

[treeman]

I have variable success with pine cuttings. Sometimes up to 50 % other times 0.
The first white pine cutting I put in grew so I thought they were easier to strike. I know the Japanese grow 'zushio' exclusively from cuttings so some white pines must have the ability to root from cuttings.
I've been getting some roots on red pines, even from 2yo shoots. As Luke says, what have I got to lose? Especially when I can't source seed easily.

Juvenile growth certainly does root much easier so if you prune your pines and see those odd shoots they make the best cuttings. I have not seen the alkaline reference so would like to hear more Mike.

Hi Shibui

Do you remember which month you put in your successful White pine cutting?
I'm thinking of trying some.

Cheers

[shibui]

Sorry Mike. That was a long time ago so I've forgotten what time of year it was. I just took a single piece home after a club pruning session and put it in. At the time I thought they must be very easy to strike after that 100% success rate.
I have some more in at the moment from my current seedlings. No roots showing yet but all still looking healthy so far

[Daluke]

FYI to all following.

Zero rooted.