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Juniper procumbens
Just got home with the next project as my other large procumbens is now sitting aside to grow out....
Got this one off the same bonsai collector as he is trying to make room for more orchids
Any thoughts on a direction to take this one? Was thinking due to its legth it may make a nice cascade?
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Got this one off the same bonsai collector as he is trying to make room for more orchids
Any thoughts on a direction to take this one? Was thinking due to its legth it may make a nice cascade?
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Re: Juniper procumbens
Or compress it down like i did the one with Koji last week
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Re: Juniper procumbens
Hi Ken, Can u reply a link? Or possibly a pic or 2?kcpoole wrote:Or compress it down like i did the one with Koji last week
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Re: Juniper procumbens
Hi Jamie
You could do a Phoenix Graft around a Piece of hard wood or Rock.
You could do a Phoenix Graft around a Piece of hard wood or Rock.
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Re: Juniper procumbens
Pretty sure Ken is referring to the raffia clad juniper in these photos (link below) he posted from the Koji summit on the School of Bonsai website. I reckon something like that would also work with your tree too.Jamie.bonsai wrote:Hi Ken, Can u reply a link? Or possibly a pic or 2?kcpoole wrote:Or compress it down like i did the one with Koji last week
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I will post a progression thread on the tree when get a chance, but this is the tree on the School gallery from the workshopJamie.bonsai wrote:Hi Ken, Can u reply a link? Or possibly a pic or 2?kcpoole wrote:Or compress it down like i did the one with Koji last week
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Re: Juniper procumbens
Photo 3 looked interesting as a possible literati - maybe get rid of all the long branches, keep the foliage close to the trunk, and see what you can make. Such a slender trunk will support very little foliage, design-wise. Or you could grow it on, fertilising heavily for a few years to get some girth in it - the trunk has some interesting shape already.
If you're hesitant to cut off major branches, cover them with black cloth, and see if the design seems clearer to you then.
Good luck.
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If you're hesitant to cut off major branches, cover them with black cloth, and see if the design seems clearer to you then.
Good luck.
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Re: Juniper procumbens
I was thinking that but it has such a long trunk on it that i think i will save some coin and buy a different tree to make a nice literatiGavinG wrote:Photo 3 looked interesting as a possible literati - maybe get rid of all the long branches, keep the foliage close to the trunk, and see what you can make. Such a slender trunk will support very little foliage, design-wise. Or you could grow it on, fertilising heavily for a few years to get some girth in it - the trunk has some interesting shape already.
If you're hesitant to cut off major branches, cover them with black cloth, and see if the design seems clearer to you then.
Good luck.
Gavin
As for this one it has been screaming cascade at me so i began work on it and am more than happy so far
As always open to ideas on future development and styling
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Not too bad at all.
I have done a little pruning for you to remove the top branches as they are going the wrong direction to the flow of the tree, and to lighten up some of the foliage pads
Ken
I have done a little pruning for you to remove the top branches as they are going the wrong direction to the flow of the tree, and to lighten up some of the foliage pads
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Re: Juniper procumbens
Hi Jamie,
I would lean towards your cascade option judging by pictures which is never easy.
The other option I like is to find the smallest tree you can at the bottom and airlayer top half.
After cutting down my last long trunk juniper I then thought, 'hey why didn't I layer that'!!!
IT takes so long to grow some girth into junipers. Getting 2 for one is always a good outcome.
I would lean towards your cascade option judging by pictures which is never easy.
The other option I like is to find the smallest tree you can at the bottom and airlayer top half.
After cutting down my last long trunk juniper I then thought, 'hey why didn't I layer that'!!!
IT takes so long to grow some girth into junipers. Getting 2 for one is always a good outcome.
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Virt look great! Thanks mate will definitely be saving it for referencekcpoole wrote:Not too bad at all.
I have done a little pruning for you to remove the top branches as they are going the wrong direction to the flow of the tree, and to lighten up some of the foliage pads
Ken
Could grafting the large branch in the other direction harm the whole tree if it doesn't take?
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When i find another large juniper i will be having my first attempt at air layeringrobb63 wrote:Hi Jamie,
I would lean towards your cascade option judging by pictures which is never easy.
The other option I like is to find the smallest tree you can at the bottom and airlayer top half.
After cutting down my last long trunk juniper I then thought, 'hey why didn't I layer that'!!!
IT takes so long to grow some girth into junipers. Getting 2 for one is always a good outcome.
Any tip to produce a good layer?
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This was the image that sold me on its direction...
Ran out of wire so i couldn't position and bend th large branch into its final upright position but it comes off the trunk at almost 90° and is quite thick so should look like ok over time...
Got into bonsai for the long haul so i have plenty of time to work on my trees but so far this is my favorite
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Ran out of wire so i couldn't position and bend th large branch into its final upright position but it comes off the trunk at almost 90° and is quite thick so should look like ok over time...
Got into bonsai for the long haul so i have plenty of time to work on my trees but so far this is my favorite
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You can bends the large first branches easy enough, I fyou do not want to remove them then IMHO i would Jin them insteadJamie.bonsai wrote:Virt look great! Thanks mate will definitely be saving it for referencekcpoole wrote:Not too bad at all.
I have done a little pruning for you to remove the top branches as they are going the wrong direction to the flow of the tree, and to lighten up some of the foliage pads
Ken
Could grafting the large branch in the other direction harm the whole tree if it doesn't take?
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Re: Juniper procumbens
Nice first steps - it is starting to look convincing.
If you don't mind a couple of suggestions:
- You could double the top two branches over hard, to cover the trunk just a little - it's awfully bare and open underneath them.
- The two sharp angles to the left in the trunk are great. You might like to put some sharper, closer angles further down, to harmonise with these two. The curve in the last third is a bit wide and open.
- If you look, all the curves at the moment are sitting in one flat plane sloping towards the viewer. I know I'm being picky, but if you bend the trunk forwards and backwards a bit, it will become three-dimensional, and more alive. More action, more fun.
Or you can tell me to go and get knotted, and do your own thing. Good start, please keep posting.
Gavin
If you don't mind a couple of suggestions:
- You could double the top two branches over hard, to cover the trunk just a little - it's awfully bare and open underneath them.
- The two sharp angles to the left in the trunk are great. You might like to put some sharper, closer angles further down, to harmonise with these two. The curve in the last third is a bit wide and open.
- If you look, all the curves at the moment are sitting in one flat plane sloping towards the viewer. I know I'm being picky, but if you bend the trunk forwards and backwards a bit, it will become three-dimensional, and more alive. More action, more fun.
Or you can tell me to go and get knotted, and do your own thing. Good start, please keep posting.
Gavin