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New leaves for a brevifolia

Posted: November 14th, 2017, 1:10 pm
by treeman
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Re: New leaves for a brevifolia

Posted: November 14th, 2017, 2:33 pm
by Hal
Ah so this is a brevifolia...always mistaken this for a cedar. Thanks Treeman.

Re: New leaves for a brevifolia

Posted: November 14th, 2017, 3:10 pm
by Matthew
Hal wrote:Ah so this is a brevifolia...always mistaken this for a cedar. Thanks Treeman.
you could be right there. Its very nice and typical of large cedars you see in Europe / Canada etc . Fantastic work Mike

Re: New leaves for a brevifolia

Posted: November 14th, 2017, 3:13 pm
by treeman
Hal wrote:Ah so this is a brevifolia...always mistaken this for a cedar. Thanks Treeman.
It is. Cedrus libani subspecies brevifolia.

Re: New leaves for a brevifolia

Posted: November 14th, 2017, 3:23 pm
by Matthew
treeman wrote:
Hal wrote:Ah so this is a brevifolia...always mistaken this for a cedar. Thanks Treeman.
It is. Cedrus libani subspecies brevifolia.
Mike

How you go with repotting . hear cedar of lebanon hate getting there roots touched . Mine is quite old and due for a restyle . I keep mine in part shade and fairly moist and its seems very happy and still quite compact growth . When I had it in full sun and drier like my deodar it hated it .....

Re: New leaves for a brevifolia

Posted: November 14th, 2017, 3:26 pm
by treeman
Matthew wrote:
Hal wrote:Ah so this is a brevifolia...always mistaken this for a cedar. Thanks Treeman.
you could be right there. Its very nice and typical of large cedars you see in Europe / Canada etc . Fantastic work Mike
Thanks Mathew, that's what I'm trying for. Most cedars are not shaped correctly IMO. More like pines. Mature cedars have a flat top and often have main branches up high (unless they are growing in a lawn without neighbours)
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Re: New leaves for a brevifolia

Posted: November 14th, 2017, 3:39 pm
by treeman
Matthew wrote: Mike

How you go with repotting . hear cedar of lebanon hate getting there roots touched . Mine is quite old and due for a restyle . I keep mine in part shade and fairly moist and its seems very happy and still quite compact growth . When I had it in full sun and drier like my deodar it hated it .....
You should be able to keep it in full sun all year except really hot days. I don't know why yours didn't do well but you can bet it had something to do with the roots. Maybe a dry spot in the root pad that you are not aware of? The gold tipped variety will burn easily. I suspect the problem with repotting is due to a lack of fibrous roots. In other words they don't branch readily but just keep extending. They have roots completely different from pines. When you cut them there might not be enough feeder roots further back to sustain the tree. So the trick is to slowly reduce the roots until you get a nice compact root ball then you should be pretty safe. You have to force the roots to branch by frequent light pruning. That might take twice as long as it would with a pine. To do that it would be important to not wait more that 3 years between root pruning for the first 10 or 20 years or you will have to remove too much length if that makes sense. After that every five years is probably ok.
That's my theory anyway. I'm still working them out.

Re: New leaves for a brevifolia

Posted: November 14th, 2017, 9:59 pm
by hugh grant
Mike I have to hand it to you!
This is a beautiful tree, absolute class and true to form, really impressive Mike.

Hugh

Re: New leaves for a brevifolia

Posted: November 15th, 2017, 9:35 am
by treeman
hugh grant wrote:Mike I have to hand it to you!
This is a beautiful tree, absolute class and true to form, really impressive Mike.

Hugh
Well thanks Grant. Very gracious and appreciated. I don't think it's anywhere near where I want it to be but as long as it improves I'm happy.

Re: New leaves for a brevifolia

Posted: November 15th, 2017, 10:24 pm
by Slatzy
Great tree! Very impressive treeman.
Cheers slatz.