Cedrus Deodora I believe

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Re: Cedrus Deodora I believe

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I was very sceptical when I first saw the tree with all that droopy growth how you've done a great job
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Thanks Juan and OB1 ... appreciate the feedback - hopefully I can continue to improve it .... there’s a way to go yet!

It’s hard to tell from photos and clearly more work to do but any small branch growth directly up or down has been removed too ... even though it still looks unwieldy... hopefully it can be tamed but I understand it’ll never be as good as say an Atlantica.


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This looks to be going pretty well MJL. I don’t have any Cedrus, but I need to clear out a few more pines and some other stuff at some stage so when I get some room I wouldn’t mind seeking out one. Maybe an Atlantica? Dunno... but they are an interesting tree - definitely on the list!
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This is what the bark on a 50 year plus cedar can look like . Guess its worth the wait........
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I fee a bit silly posting these photos in between posts of the wonderful trees being shown in Canberra and SA. At times like this I feel partly inspired and partly deflated at seeing trees that are so far advanced as to be near unattainable. Anyway.... onwards and upwards I suppose. First plucking and trimming of the season. I think to take this to the next level I am going to need to doing something .... Image ha! I am just not sure what! It is progressing but I am not sure where to take it ... perhaps it’s just time and patience.Image
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MJL wrote: October 10th, 2020, 2:29 pm At times like this I feel partly inspired and partly deflated at seeing trees that are so far advanced as to be near unattainable
I know how you feel, I get the same feeling looking at your trees. I'm sure that all of us feel that way at at some stage, its best I don't compare my efforts with most of the contributors here.
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Agreed Mark, it can suck the jam out of your doughnut to see some of the display standard trees and then think why am i doing this?

If i ever even have trees to that standard we are talking decades of work. Decades of stressing over them, rushing home from work to water, pest problems, the inevitable losses of treasured trees, not to mention having to make arrangements for our plants to be cared for so we able to go on a holiday without them suffering.

Then i will sit out with my very average trees and a cup of tea or a beer and just look at them. They won't feature in a show any time soon, they will never grace the cover of a publication, nor win international acclaim, but i love them all the same. One day you'll look at this tree and reflect on how it used to look and how far it has developed and you'll be proud of your work and you won't worry about comparing it to anyone else's trees.

If you see this tree as being 1m tall and fully ramified out well then yes you will be waiting a very long time to see that. If you see it as being a shohin with less ramification required to create the sense of mature foliage, well it may not be such a long wait after all.
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Re: Cedrus Deodora I believe

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Any update on this one?

I need to repot and revitalise a prostrate Deodar that has been basically "just sitting there" for a few years now and was looking for clues on what I should and shouldn't do. I notice there is a big variation in suggested root pruning times for these and would be interested in your thoughts given the advice you had received.

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G'day Mark.
Nice progression series, appreciate all the info shared and like what you've done with it so far. I've got one of these that's been sitting in a pot, untouched since I got it. This is just the motivation I needed so thank you.

The last photo is a ripper!! Hard to tell from photos, but to my inexperienced eye at least, wondering if a slight tweak to the potting angle would highlight the nice work you've done like that pic does?
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Hey Pat and Jan,

Just a quick acknowledgement and thanks for your comments and reaching out … when I get a chance over the next couple of days I’ll update with some photos and thoughts. Lockdown life is kinda hectic at present!
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Hi again,
I went outside this morning to take a photo of this tree in-situ and was surprised how it has sprung into life in the past few weeks! Given the news buds are bursting - I think I’ll repot this today - I am not sure if a I have a suitable pot so it might go back into the same training pot. I note that I re-potted this last time in 2018 - how time flies!! If I remember - I’ll take some photos as I repot. Here it is unkempt over winter. Image


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Re: Cedrus Deodora I believe

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Looking good Mark. I'm just a little bit jealous - it's a lovely little tree. I think I need a deodar in my life.
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I’ll let the pictures do the talking… I might have tilted it too far towards the views in hindsight … but it all looks ok, I think.
As it was… (back)
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As it now is … all angles …
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Still messy but in the improve, I think Image. Feedback welcome.


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Re: Cedrus Deodora I believe

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I like. Gives the impression of greater depth and from more vantage points. Win in my book.
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