Mallsai Juniper
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Mallsai Juniper
I bought this juniper from Bunnings a few years ago including the rock . Being a deciduous lover I got this to work on so I was not so ignorant with conifers but my learning has not progressed much.
I was at this stage last year and after hacking at it I was very disapionted with the result. I have considerd a cascade but I am liking the widswept style at the moment. I like that it looks like a wave.
The photo does it little justice as usual and it is very hard to see any structure. So I want to ask members for any ideas on initial pruning ideas and then I will repost pics that will hopefully show more structure for critique. This is the tree today in style of pot I copied called a quick pot. I have this sitting under the verander at the moment were it looks very cool as it is very healthy, even though it has often dried right out. Like the elm I hope to start enjoying the juniper more because they grow so well in our climate. In the last week it has been getting more shade and the foilage has lost some vibrancy. These are a couple of earlier ones from a couple of years ago that shows the structure a little better
I was at this stage last year and after hacking at it I was very disapionted with the result. I have considerd a cascade but I am liking the widswept style at the moment. I like that it looks like a wave.
The photo does it little justice as usual and it is very hard to see any structure. So I want to ask members for any ideas on initial pruning ideas and then I will repost pics that will hopefully show more structure for critique. This is the tree today in style of pot I copied called a quick pot. I have this sitting under the verander at the moment were it looks very cool as it is very healthy, even though it has often dried right out. Like the elm I hope to start enjoying the juniper more because they grow so well in our climate. In the last week it has been getting more shade and the foilage has lost some vibrancy. These are a couple of earlier ones from a couple of years ago that shows the structure a little better
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Looking back on the post I can add that my main issue is for windswept I must have limited foilage so how can I make this look good and also the outer left branch that pionts against the wind I would like to keep cause I think it looks good but it grows against the wind. I have tried to get some bend in the direction of the wind but this is hard without crossing the trunk or obstructing other branches. I have conceeded by basicly pionting into the wind but keeping shorter!
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Sorry Soltan, i cant see any wind in that tree at all! Have you got Robert Steven's book visions of my soul? If not it is worth borrowing a copy if you can and read the section on creating windswept trees.
Regards
Peter
Ps..i am doing a tree this afternoon that i tried to create a windswept style with years ago, gave up and turned it into an informal upright, and now would you believe i am going to try and turn it into a windswept again! Poor tree is getting giddy..
Regards
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Ps..i am doing a tree this afternoon that i tried to create a windswept style with years ago, gave up and turned it into an informal upright, and now would you believe i am going to try and turn it into a windswept again! Poor tree is getting giddy..
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Re: Mallsai Juniper
nothing wrong with crossing the trunk when ya doin wind swept in fact i reccomend it.soltan wrote:Looking back on the post I can add that my main issue is for windswept I must have limited foilage so how can I make this look good and also the outer left branch that pionts against the wind I would like to keep cause I think it looks good but it grows against the wind. I have tried to get some bend in the direction of the wind but this is hard without crossing the trunk or obstructing other branches. I have conceeded by basicly pionting into the wind but keeping shorter!
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You have me wanting to prove you Wrong Peter That is what this screams to me.
I will consider this alot when I style Antonio
I will consider this alot when I style Antonio
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I sincerely hope you do Brett, and wish you all the best of luck with it mate. Dont ya love challenges! I will post the tree i mentioned above later if you like and we can go through the expierience together. Windswept is a very difficult style! IMO.
Peter
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Posting your tree will be great. I am looking forward to going through this with ya A good windswept is hard I believe.
Challenges are the only way to learn
I enjoyed that although I am no fan of fine wiring as you can see. I think I will be happy to see where this design takes me for a couple more years at least but I look forward to comments
Challenges are the only way to learn
I enjoyed that although I am no fan of fine wiring as you can see. I think I will be happy to see where this design takes me for a couple more years at least but I look forward to comments
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Thats a cute little pot your tree is in to Brett. I like it, is it just an off the shelf pot? It looks like a Penny Davis pot.
I have posted my tree here viewtopic.php?f=104&t=621
I didnt want to hijack your thread.
Regards
Peter
I have posted my tree here viewtopic.php?f=104&t=621
I didnt want to hijack your thread.
Regards
Peter
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It's one I made Peter Thanks I can't remember who's technique I copied maybe it was Horst or or Dale?This is the tree today in style of pot I copied called a quick pot.
Ohh I was looking forward to your opinion on the windswept. I can take it
I will have a look at your new thread now. I doubt posting your tree would ruin the thread
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Well done Brett, thats a nice glaze, i like it.soltan wrote:It one I made Peter Thanks I can't remember who's technique I copied maybe it was Horst or or Dale?This is the tree today in style of pot I copied called a quick pot.
Ohh I was looking forward to your opinion on the windswept. I can take it
I will have a look at your new thread now. I doubt posting your tree would ruin the thread
Peter
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Re: Mallsai Juniper
Solt, i think this guy grows into the wind too much. I also think that the long top section of the trunk (Its too long to really calss as a branch) is just too long and with little branching else where it doesnt have what it takes to give off the wind swept effect.
I think there is a better option to be had, and should take less time to achieve.
http://www.bonsaieurope.org/photo/main. ... itemId=841
Look at what he is doing with the little one year old junipers.
You gotta twist it, twist it good....
I think there is a better option to be had, and should take less time to achieve.
http://www.bonsaieurope.org/photo/main. ... itemId=841
Look at what he is doing with the little one year old junipers.
You gotta twist it, twist it good....
Young and hostile but not stupid.
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I definatly class that as the trunk Asus. I was happy to feel good about taking branches of this time instead of just thining them as I realised that it must happen to get the angle on the branches for windswept that I wanted. The challenge with this tree in this style is exactly(what you say) that the trunk grows into the wind at first. I can dream up reasons for this to be the case but I would rather aproach the problem from a balance or artistic direction. I like the two long major "apexes" that head to the right. Like I said it reminds me of a wave. I will wire the main trunk again to get some movement side to side in the top middle section and possibly I may compress the base some time in the future.
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Dam do I have to beg for a critique Peter
The glaze was the easiest part I asked for a dull green and the ladies sugest matt green
The glaze was the easiest part I asked for a dull green and the ladies sugest matt green
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A windswept tree will grow into the wind to some degree, but not as much as this one does.soltan wrote:I definatly class that as the trunk Asus. I was happy to feel good about taking branches of this time instead of just thining them as I realised that it must happen to get the angle on the branches for windswept that I wanted. The challenge with this tree in this style is exactly(what you say) that the trunk grows into the wind at first. I can dream up reasons for this to be the case but I would rather aproach the problem from a balance or artistic direction. I like the two long major "apexes" that head to the right. Like I said it reminds me of a wave. I will wire the main trunk again to get some movement side to side in the top middle section and possibly I may compress the base some time in the future.
I still stand by the option to twist it and do a small shohin drift wood style. I am actually bugging Leigh about finding some for me to purchase so I can do the same thing.
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I figure a juniper can grow in many directions so I just can't see this as out of the question. But if you don't like that is fine
It is definatly not the first mallsai to be styled like this
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