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Re: black pines

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This tree looks amazing.....very inspiring thank you.
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Mate this one has always been one of my favorites out of all the pines I've seen.

Absolutely love it.

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hi everyone,
just going through the japanese black pines today and i'd share a bit of progress and what's being done to them.
the first one had all the large branches replaced with closer back buds, which are wired into position. the needles are a bit long due to being left to grow for one season. the reverse taper in the lower trunk is improving since 4 wedges were banged into the thinner section to force thickening. it measures 35cm in height.
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here is another one, the result will be revealed tomorrow.
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well, here it is after wiring. it measures at 26cm in height. this one has rather impressive nebari.
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here is another one done today. it measured at 35cm in height. a bit of reverse taper just above the nebari. it was split and inserted with two plastic wedges to thicken it.
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Top work as always mate, look forward to seeing these develop in the future.

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bonsaisensation wrote: it was split and inserted with two plastic wedges to thicken it.
Hi There,

Thanks for taking the time to post these. Can you give us a little more info on this method and how you do it?

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hi Drew
i used a trunk splitter to make two incisions into the part of the trunk that is thinner and needs to thicken. i then inserted and hammered in a plastic wedge used in spacing tiles to push the gap wider. the gap is then sealed up with cutting paste. as the tree grows over the next season, the "purposely wounded" part will grow thicker as the tree tries to heal the wound.
this method is nothing new and we have used it to great effect with cedars and pines to create taper and correct reverse taper. i'll update with some photos next time we do it.


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So when you use the trunk splitters, do you split the trunk all the way down to the roots or just the the section of trunk you want to thicken? I guess depending on the tree you could do either successfully right? Photos would be great if you have any.

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hi Drew
here it goes:
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the wedges will stay in the trunk and i shall report in a couple of year to update its progress.
note that there are some existing wedges in the trunk. they were put in there last year. due to the tree was not fed a lot this year, it did not grow enough to callus. but it has worked on quite a number of trees and i have no doubt it will with this tree.

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Re: black pines

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Hi Tien,
Some great pines there and excellent work. The wedges work well. Some good info. Thanks for posting these
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Maybe the mods can separate the wedge technique into its own thread as well?

Some great shots there, and something I think we can all use on pines with this issue.

Thanks for sharing :tu:
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bonsaisensation wrote:an update on the bunjin black pine
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the long hanging branch had been jinned as it was adding too much volumn and weight to the foliage. the rest of the branches have all been cut back to better back buds to form a more compact branch structure. it doesn't show all that well in the photo behind all the needles, but the short left branch is my favourite branch having good movement and short internodes.



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bonsaisensation wrote:well, here it is after wiring. it measures at 26cm in height. this one has rather impressive nebari.
IMG_1360a.jpg
here is another one done today. it measured at 35cm in height. a bit of reverse taper just above the nebari. it was split and inserted with two plastic wedges to thicken it.
IMG_1361a.jpg
IMG_1362a.jpg

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Re: black pines

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bonsaisensation wrote:hi everyone,
just going through the japanese black pines today and i'd share a bit of progress and what's being done to them.
the first one had all the large branches replaced with closer back buds, which are wired into position. the needles are a bit long due to being left to grow for one season. the reverse taper in the lower trunk is improving since 4 wedges were banged into the thinner section to force thickening. it measures 35cm in height.
IMG_1354a.jpg
IMG_1355a.jpg
here is another one, the result will be revealed tomorrow.
IMG_1356a.jpg

regards
to continue to watch this tree progress visit: viewtopic.php?f=131&t=24428


thank you Tien for producing some phenomenal trees! :tu:

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