Choubai

Forum for discussion of Flowering and fuiting bonsai - Azalea, Serissa, Apricot etc.
User avatar
treeman
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 2839
Joined: August 15th, 2011, 4:47 pm
Favorite Species: any
Bonsai Age: 25
Location: melbourne
Has thanked: 28 times
Been thanked: 576 times

Choubai

Post by treeman »

The famous chojubai variety of Chaenomeles japonica.
In full flower now.
This one was started about 20? years ago by cutting the rhizome into 50mm long pieces and burying them horizontally in a shallow pot as per the instructions on Kyuzo Murata in the ''Four seasons of Bonsai''
If I remember correctly, about 7 pieces where planted and the resulting shoots trained mainly by clip and grow. Very easy to grow and train. They just get better every year without much effort.
P1100151.JPG
P1100152.JPG
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Mike
User avatar
Gerard
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 2656
Joined: October 7th, 2009, 12:32 pm
Favorite Species: pines
Bonsai Age: 16
Bonsai Club: BSV, Northwest, Northern Suburbs, VNBC
Location: Melbourne
Has thanked: 18 times
Been thanked: 48 times

Re: Choubai

Post by Gerard »

A wonderful tree the photos do not do it justice
Q: Why are we all here?
A: Because we are not all there.
User avatar
Steven
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 3408
Joined: November 7th, 2008, 11:21 am
Favorite Species: [color=green]Casuarina[/color]
Bonsai Age: 15
Bonsai Club: AusBonsai & The School of Bonsai
Location: Sydney
Has thanked: 43 times
Been thanked: 60 times
Contact:

Re: Choubai

Post by Steven »

Looks fantastic Mike!

When do you repot your Choubai? I read a recent article by Bjorn Bjorholm where he classes Choubai as a (semi) tropical and repots in the heat of summer.

Would you consider a smaller pot?

Regards,
Steven
Check out the AusBonsai Store ǀ Wiki ǀ Blogs ǀ Gallery ǀ 360˚ ǀ
Remember to be polite and abide by the Spirit and Intent of AusBonsai
User avatar
Webos
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 1206
Joined: July 15th, 2009, 12:05 pm
Favorite Species: Juniper
Bonsai Age: 0
Bonsai Club: Southern Vic Bonsai Club
Location: Southern Vic

Re: Choubai

Post by Webos »

G'day Mike, can you let us know the dimensions of this one?

Thanks

Adam
User avatar
treeman
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 2839
Joined: August 15th, 2011, 4:47 pm
Favorite Species: any
Bonsai Age: 25
Location: melbourne
Has thanked: 28 times
Been thanked: 576 times

Re: Choubai

Post by treeman »

Webos wrote:G'day Mike, can you let us know the dimensions of this one?

Thanks

Adam
Without measuring I would guess about 25cm x 35cm (H x W)
Mike
User avatar
treeman
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 2839
Joined: August 15th, 2011, 4:47 pm
Favorite Species: any
Bonsai Age: 25
Location: melbourne
Has thanked: 28 times
Been thanked: 576 times

Re: Choubai

Post by treeman »

Steven wrote:Looks fantastic Mike!

When do you repot your Choubai? I read a recent article by Bjorn Bjorholm where he classes Choubai as a (semi) tropical and repots in the heat of summer.

Would you consider a smaller pot?

Regards,
Steven
It's definitely not sub-tropical. It loves temperatures of 0 to 5 degrees C. It's a temperate plant. I repot every autumn. I would only repot in summer if I lived in Sweden.
Mind you, it also loves the heat when growing.

Pot size, Yeah it was in a smaller pot and could be just as nice in a smaller pot. The width of this pot gives a nice impression of landscape. I will get a different colour though. It goes into a different pot almost every year...
Last edited by treeman on July 26th, 2016, 2:28 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Mike
User avatar
Boics
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 2189
Joined: September 27th, 2012, 6:16 pm
Favorite Species: Banksia, Syzygium, Cotoneaster. Leptospermum
Bonsai Age: 7
Location: Victoria Inner City Fringe
Has thanked: 28 times
Been thanked: 16 times

Re: Choubai

Post by Boics »

Hi Mike,
I'd love to understand a little more about the technique you discussed?

I have a very small Chojubai that I bought a year or so ago and have unsuccessfully attempted to ground layer it once.
Unfortunately the species while prolific with flowers almost all year round is very slow to grow for me.
I understand that removing flowers can help grow but I still find it to be slow as a snail.
Last edited by Boics on July 26th, 2016, 2:31 pm, edited 1 time in total.
One of the fabulous things about growing bonsai is as you get old and decrepit your trees get old and beautiful
User avatar
treeman
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 2839
Joined: August 15th, 2011, 4:47 pm
Favorite Species: any
Bonsai Age: 25
Location: melbourne
Has thanked: 28 times
Been thanked: 576 times

Re: Choubai

Post by treeman »

Boics wrote:Hi Mike,
I'd love to understand a little more about the technique you discussed?

I have a very small Chojubai that I bought a year or so ago and have unsuccessfully attempted to ground layer it once.
Unfortunately the species while prolific with flowers almost all year round is very slow to grow for me.
I understand that removing flowers can help grow but I still find it to be slow as a snail.
First thing you gotta know is these are SLOW. They will not thicken fast if you hold a gun to them.
In one season they should (if uncut) produce 20 to 30 cm of growth from most shoots. Of course you cut them before they get too long to force branching as much as possible. Cut when you have about10 leaves on the stem down to 2 or 3 leaves.
To grow well, they need full sun unless say 35C or over.
Plenty of fertilizer (organic or mineral or both)
Plenty of water every day in summer.
Repot every year. You can use the same size pot.
No need for exotic mixes. This grows perfectly in normal potting mix with a bit of sand. They DO NOT like very open mixes.
Don't feed when dormant (now)
Don't over water in winter but NEVER let them dry. This will kill roots and weaken the plant severely.
If you have lots of flowers but not much growth, I would suspect root issues. Trim roots repot and treat as above.
Only start feeding when you are sure it can accept feeding. That is - when the new shoots have about 5 to 7 leaves.

The prop technique entails cutting some of the thicker roots or the horizontal underground stem into sections, laying them flat on some soil and covering with a couple of cm. That's it!
Last edited by treeman on July 26th, 2016, 2:50 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Mike
User avatar
Boics
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 2189
Joined: September 27th, 2012, 6:16 pm
Favorite Species: Banksia, Syzygium, Cotoneaster. Leptospermum
Bonsai Age: 7
Location: Victoria Inner City Fringe
Has thanked: 28 times
Been thanked: 16 times

Re: Choubai

Post by Boics »

Epic.

I was going to move mine on due to boredom but I'll persevere a little longer now.
Sorry to hijack your thread - I'll make room for more gloating now :cool:
One of the fabulous things about growing bonsai is as you get old and decrepit your trees get old and beautiful
KIRKY
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 1969
Joined: May 21st, 2009, 3:42 pm
Favorite Species: Flowering
Bonsai Age: 12
Bonsai Club: BSV
Location: Melbourne
Has thanked: 1167 times
Been thanked: 246 times

Re: Choubai

Post by KIRKY »

Hi Mike,
Just beautiful! Mike do you think you would get a similar result by rafting?
Cheers
Kirky
Great oaks from little acorns grow.
User avatar
treeman
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 2839
Joined: August 15th, 2011, 4:47 pm
Favorite Species: any
Bonsai Age: 25
Location: melbourne
Has thanked: 28 times
Been thanked: 576 times

Re: Choubai

Post by treeman »

KIRKY wrote:Hi Mike,
Just beautiful! Mike do you think you would get a similar result by rafting?
Cheers
Kirky
Hi Susan,
Yes!. Although the buried stems may take a while to root.
Mike
Watto
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 3940
Joined: July 6th, 2009, 8:17 am
Favorite Species: Plum
Bonsai Age: 0
Bonsai Club: Goulburn Bonsai Society
Location: Goulburn
Has thanked: 513 times
Been thanked: 1096 times

Re: Choubai

Post by Watto »

Yes very impressive, and thank you for sharing.
Check out my blog at http://www.ausbonsai.com.au/blog/Watto" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
User avatar
Reece
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 519
Joined: August 8th, 2012, 9:26 am
Favorite Species: Conifers.
Bonsai Age: 2
Location: Sydney

Re: Choubai

Post by Reece »

Beautiful!

Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
User avatar
kvan64
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 1627
Joined: September 10th, 2009, 9:46 pm
Favorite Species: black pine
Bonsai Age: 16
Location: brisbane
Has thanked: 6 times
Been thanked: 36 times

Re: Choubai

Post by kvan64 »

Beautiful! Mines are not doing too well here in QLD as it is quite warm here.
Always we hope someone else has the answer.
Bonsai is an art of shrinking.
User avatar
treeman
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 2839
Joined: August 15th, 2011, 4:47 pm
Favorite Species: any
Bonsai Age: 25
Location: melbourne
Has thanked: 28 times
Been thanked: 576 times

Re: Choubai

Post by treeman »

More flowers in 2017
chojubai.JPG
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Mike
Post Reply

Return to “Flowering and fruiting”