Bougies flowering all the way back to 1st node??
Posted: May 13th, 2018, 7:21 am
I'm under the impression that, on terminally-flowering (ie flowering from apical-tips of the shoots) species, when the tip and nodes beneath it begin flowering, they're no longer able to go vegetative (so, if you're developing primary-branches on collected stock, and wanted to continue fattening the base of a primary branch, you'd let it continue onward by letting the next-lowest, non-flowering node become the new leader.
The problem that I've encountered is that, after a spring hard-pruning (I'm in the US, semi-tropical FL zone 9b, it's mid-spring now the prunings were ~1mo ago), I have a bunch of bougies that, upon re-growing from pruning, are flowering on *every* node, like some of them are hardwood cuttings I propagated and only have 2 or 3 primaries, I let those grow & flower over the winter as long branches, in spring I cut-back to 2 nodes on all shoots and am now getting flowers at those nodes instead of the tree pushing new limbs (or, in other instances, am getting short shoots with 3-4 nodes, but those nodes are flowering too)
Was my understanding wrong? I thought that was pretty much the rule, that once a tip flowers, that tip doesn't (ever) revert to vegetative, that whole branch relies on a lower-down node to start vegetative growth again- if *all* nodes flower, what then?
Thanks for any thoughts on this, I'd like to say 'maybe bougies are an exception to that rule' but even Adam Lavigne told me that was the case (unsure how known he'd be on this board but he lives in my area, runs the adamaskwhy.com blog and is, for my area, a "bougainvillea go-to" person), so am worried how these specimen can ever continue vegetative growth when every node has started flowering :/
(also, if anyone's got tips on how to thwart flowering, or reduce flowering, I'd love to hear it! I love their flowers but all my bougies (50+) are 'in-development' so bad that I'm still working for primary branch structure so want them vegetative as possible! I do the expected 'tricks' ie don't let them get too-dry, keep them with high nitro / low phosphorous, etc but right now that's as much as I can do, when they begin flowering I typically let them develop any particular flower for ~1wk before cutting it off, am unsure what the horticultural implications are but I suspect/hope it "gets it out of flower-mode" quicker *and*, well, those flowers are just caterpillar-magnets this time of year!)
Again thanks for any thoughts on any of this, bougainvilleas are the core of my collection and one of my favorite species so was referred to this board due to that as well as having found myself getting here via google often enough when searching bougie-topics, am hoping to get a new perspective and hope it's not a faux pas on my end to be an outsider posting to your Australian board!!
Happy gardening guys&gals
The problem that I've encountered is that, after a spring hard-pruning (I'm in the US, semi-tropical FL zone 9b, it's mid-spring now the prunings were ~1mo ago), I have a bunch of bougies that, upon re-growing from pruning, are flowering on *every* node, like some of them are hardwood cuttings I propagated and only have 2 or 3 primaries, I let those grow & flower over the winter as long branches, in spring I cut-back to 2 nodes on all shoots and am now getting flowers at those nodes instead of the tree pushing new limbs (or, in other instances, am getting short shoots with 3-4 nodes, but those nodes are flowering too)
Was my understanding wrong? I thought that was pretty much the rule, that once a tip flowers, that tip doesn't (ever) revert to vegetative, that whole branch relies on a lower-down node to start vegetative growth again- if *all* nodes flower, what then?
Thanks for any thoughts on this, I'd like to say 'maybe bougies are an exception to that rule' but even Adam Lavigne told me that was the case (unsure how known he'd be on this board but he lives in my area, runs the adamaskwhy.com blog and is, for my area, a "bougainvillea go-to" person), so am worried how these specimen can ever continue vegetative growth when every node has started flowering :/
(also, if anyone's got tips on how to thwart flowering, or reduce flowering, I'd love to hear it! I love their flowers but all my bougies (50+) are 'in-development' so bad that I'm still working for primary branch structure so want them vegetative as possible! I do the expected 'tricks' ie don't let them get too-dry, keep them with high nitro / low phosphorous, etc but right now that's as much as I can do, when they begin flowering I typically let them develop any particular flower for ~1wk before cutting it off, am unsure what the horticultural implications are but I suspect/hope it "gets it out of flower-mode" quicker *and*, well, those flowers are just caterpillar-magnets this time of year!)
Again thanks for any thoughts on any of this, bougainvilleas are the core of my collection and one of my favorite species so was referred to this board due to that as well as having found myself getting here via google often enough when searching bougie-topics, am hoping to get a new perspective and hope it's not a faux pas on my end to be an outsider posting to your Australian board!!
Happy gardening guys&gals