Prunus by root cuttings

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Prunus by root cuttings

Post by Daluke »

Hey guys,

Has anyone had any luck propagating prunus by root cutting? I haven’t been able to propagate by normal cutting and it’s killing me. Good specimens are hard to come by.


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Re: Prunus by root cuttings

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Some plums grow happily from root cuttings but I'm not sure about the other species.
Which prunus are you trying?
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There's a root cutting post somewhere here... viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6055&hilit=root+cut ... d611a2c5f1

might help..?
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Re: Prunus by root cuttings

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It’s from a grafted double flowering apricot.

No idea what the rootstock was.

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[quote]Prunus noclue :lol:
I have a couple of those.
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It’s from a grafted double flowering apricot.

No idea what the rootstock was.

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So just to be clear, you are trying to grow the rootstock, not the flowering apricot? Maybe the apricot is no more and the stock is now growing?

Most commercial prunus would probably be grafted onto myrobolan plums rootstock I think, in which case it should be easy to grow from root cuttings. I've always found it quite easy to strike as hardwood cuttings too. Try pencil thick cuttings taken now. They can be tied in bundles and buried almost to the top in damp soil for the winter. Lift in spring and most should have good callus at the base and can be put into pots or straight into the ground. Stored in plastic bag in the fridge crisper over winter is another alternative instead of burying. Also as normal cuttings in propagating mix and with a cover for humidity should be OK. The key seems to be to prevent the dormant cuttings from dehydrating over winter until they have new roots.
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Re: Prunus by root cuttings

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The rootstock is unknown. It seemed to be doing pretty well though whatever the type.

The grafted addition is flowering apricot which has lots of twigs. I’ve had it for a season and it seems to be powering.

I was hoping on separating some of the apricot twigs and grafting them to some other prunus type rootstock to get more mume.

The mume available at nurseries is quite ugly and pricey. No bonsai potential. I figured I’d invest in one for donor / experiment purposes.

How do you guys get your hands on mume??
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My young Prunus mume and ume I found at a local bonsai nursery, though they were not out on the benches, they were in the prop area out the back. I asked about finding flowering cherry, which they didn’t have, but they disappeared out the back and returned with a rooted cutting of each which I grabbed (I was more excited about the apricot, but the plum is nice too).

Cuttings from my Ume have been successful, but mume not so much. I will try again this year with both.

I see stumps of nectarine fairly commonly, even plum stumps occasionally, but mume is quite uncommon. Normal plant nurseries occasionally have the grafted weeping mume, and I thought about if something could be done with one of those. They are pretty rare to see as well though.
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Re: Prunus by root cuttings

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Which nursery?
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I have a flowering plum root cutting I got from Moongate Bonsai which is apparently from 90 year old prunus.

I re-potted it and plan on doing some carving/styling this year. It is massive. Maybe see if they have any more? Shrua was very helpful.
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Daluke wrote: June 27th, 2019, 1:14 pmWhich nursery?
It was Bonsai Art nursery about 2 years ago. Literally just like 1 year old rooted cuttings though.
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Re: Prunus by root cuttings

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Flowering apricots are usually grafted onto either peach or Prunus cerasifera. Neither will grow from root cuttings. And just as well too!
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Prunus by root cuttings

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treeman wrote:Flowering apricots are usually grafted onto either peach or Prunus cerasifera. Neither will grow from root cuttings. And just as well too!
Ugly?

Do peach and cerasifera propagate from root cutting easily??

It seems that all the understock stuff available is too wide for nice grafts.




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Re: Prunus by root cuttings

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Daluke wrote: June 28th, 2019, 5:43 pm

Do peach and cerasifera propagate from root cutting easily??






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Re: Prunus by root cuttings

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treeman wrote:
Daluke wrote: June 28th, 2019, 5:43 pm

Do peach and cerasifera propagate from root cutting easily??






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No wonder then that they are so pricey.




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