Not sure on species

[James93A]

Hi everyone,

I want to air layer and collect this from a relatives garden. Any idea on the species? Thought it may be a native but after doing some research cannot find anything similar.

Thanks,
James

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[Kevin]

Camelia sasanqua is my
Not too sure on an air layer and very interested to know as well. I have 2 layers on a sasanqua, now for 12 months, last checked 2 months ago, lots of callus but no roots.

Kevin

[shibui]

I'll agree with Camellia.
Camellia transplants relatively easily. You can cut it right back and still get new shoots. Relatively slow growing so it may take a few years to fill out after you dig it.
They are routinely grown from cuttings so should layer reasonably well but I have not tried that.

[Max]

Camelia sasanqua is my
Not too sure on an air layer and very interested to know as well. I have 2 layers on a sasanqua, now for 12 months, last checked 2 months ago, lots of callus but no roots.

Kevin

yes to sasanqua

Hi Kevin. I did an airlayer on my sasanqua about 6 months ago and when i saw this post i went outside to check it. Lots of chunky light brown callus and one 10mm root. I must say tho that i used peat moss mixed with vermiculite with a 6 inch pot around the 40mm branch and that during that period it did dry out a number of times from the sun hitting the pot (top was wrapped in plastic only, no alfoil). If i was to do it again i would use spagnum instead and wrap the top and bottom of the pot in plastic and the whole thing in alfoil. I've covered her back over with the peat and soaked in seasol. In a few weeks i'll check her again
ps. sasanqua are slower than japonica

Cheers
Max

[Kevin]

Hello James, Max,

I'll check mine in a day or two and report back.
I'm not confident though, i'm the same, too many 40 plus days and forgetting to water
Mine were sealed for about 8 - 9 months then open pot for about 3 - 4 months in cow manure soaked sphagnum.
In future i reckon i'll visit the nursery.
I do love their winter flowering, one of my favorite plants.
Just remembered, i took a photo of mine a few years ago.

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Kevin

[James93A]

Thanks so much for your detailed responses everyone. I'll do an air layer as well and keep you all posted one root from 6 months sounds very slow Max but what a hardy tree

What time of the year is good for digging these? I'm guessing winter?

James

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[Max]

Hi James yeah they reckon late autumn/winter, are yours still pushing buds out? myself, if the tree is healthy and i'm going to chop it down considerably i'd do it....but that's me...i did a buxus xmas time and it's still leafy and sprouting new buds...getting a good root ball and good after care is important i think and leaving enough foliage so it can still go about it's daily business let me know what your going to do, interested in which way you'll go

cheers
Max

[James93A]

Hey Max, yeah it's still pushing those fruits? I haven't seen it flower yet I don't think. To be honest I've only just noticed it was a good candidate for bonsai this week. All growth looks hardened. Sounds great, got any pics of the buxus?

I'll have to get permission to dig first, problem is it's quite a large hedge blocking vision into the house so chances are I can't dig it out but I could air layer? Maybe I can convince to take it and replace with some Cypress hedger saplings

James

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[Max]

hey James type in "Buxus help plz" and i'll try take a photo of the buds today sometime while i'm at it i'll take a photo of the air layer on the sasanqua and the one tiny root removed a layer off a cedar a few weeks back so i'll chuck that in for good measure hopefully the photos come out the right way up or you might have to stand on your head to look at them

Cheers
Max

[James93A]

hey James type in "Buxus help plz" and i'll try take a photo of the buds today sometime while i'm at it i'll take a photo of the air layer on the sasanqua and the one tiny root removed a layer off a cedar a few weeks back so i'll chuck that in for good measure hopefully the photos come out the right way up or you might have to stand on your head to look at them

Cheers
Max

Haha sounds good to me Max. Can't wait to see the sasanqua [FACE WITH TEARS OF JOY][FACE WITH TEARS OF JOY] a root is a root. Can't argue with a live tree. How thick was your air layer strip?

I'll check out the buxus thread now!!

Cheers,
James

[James93A]

Aparrantly my emoticons don't work either. Pardon that

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[Kevin]

Hello James, Max,

Well, it's still 35 degrees in the shade here and a lot hotter out in the sun with the tree.
I removed one layer, incredible callus and no roots.
It's about 1mm from bridging at the bottom.
It's also at the bottom of the tree (if that makes a difference) and a very awkward location. I'll leave it alone now.
As both my layers were located on the lowest branches could be the reason for the slow response.
I'll check the other one in a few weeks, hopefully cooler weather too.

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Kevin

[Max]

Hi Kevin, James
Kevin mine is also at the bottom of the tree so you might be on to something there, how thick is the branch? my diameter is 40 mm but that also might have something to do with it and when i ring barked it i cut about/over the same, still have about a 15/20mm gap between callus's (or should that be "calli" )

Please excuse the extremely poor photo's as i work in hospitality and my wages have just dropped

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James these are the buds on the Buxus dug at the wrong time of year, again excuse poor photo

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and this is the cedar layer i took off 2 weeks ago which i think is going well with new light green tips growing off the branches, this is a verigated one (yellow/green )

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hopefully these pictures of my plants have given you a laugh and made you feel better about yours

regards
Max

[shibui]

Max, That 'cedar' does not look like a cedar to me. Bit hard to see properly from the small photo (probably also due to pay rate reduction today?) but I'd guess it is a juniper of some sort.

[delisea]

Hi Kevin,
I'm curious, did you use rooting hormone on that layer?
Cheers, Symon