Screenshot_2018-04-23-04-22-48-1.png
South Australia Shrub/Small Tree
- AllThingsGreen
- Aussie Bonsai Fan
- Posts: 31
- Joined: April 22nd, 2018, 3:57 am
- Favorite Species: Thyme Honey-Myrtle
- Bonsai Age: 0
- Bonsai Club: Wannabe-sai (private)
- Location: South Australia
- Has thanked: 2 times
- Contact:
Re: South Australia Shrub/Small Tree
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Last edited by AllThingsGreen on April 23rd, 2018, 5:01 am, edited 1 time in total.
-
- Aussie Bonsai Fan
- Posts: 7693
- Joined: August 22nd, 2009, 8:41 pm
- Favorite Species: trident maple
- Bonsai Age: 41
- Bonsai Club: Albury/Wodonga; BSV; Canberra; VNBC
- Location: Yackandandah
- Has thanked: 68 times
- Been thanked: 1435 times
- Contact:
Re: South Australia Shrub/Small Tree
Well done on the pictures or ID but it still has me unsure. Looks familiar but just not quite. My first guess was citrus but the leaves are just not quite right. You have said shrub/tree but the stems with prominent new shoots at each leaf do remind me of a twining vine. Is it possible this could be hardenbergia?
It is good that it has started to shoot after collection. Sounds promising.
Does not really look like chilli..... or blueberry either.
Re the figs: These are generally quite easy to transplant, grow and maintain so you should not have too much trouble. They will produce new shoots readily from dormant buds on old, bare wood so you should be able to cut back anywhere and get fresh growth wherever you want it. Having said that I would wait for the tree to regain strength before making any further chops. These have been through a lot of stress - being defoliated by goats, dug up, transplanted and now trying to produce new leaves. They will have used up much stored energy and need to have leaves for a while to renew their strength before being subjected to further abuse.
It is good that it has started to shoot after collection. Sounds promising.
Does not really look like chilli..... or blueberry either.
Re the figs: These are generally quite easy to transplant, grow and maintain so you should not have too much trouble. They will produce new shoots readily from dormant buds on old, bare wood so you should be able to cut back anywhere and get fresh growth wherever you want it. Having said that I would wait for the tree to regain strength before making any further chops. These have been through a lot of stress - being defoliated by goats, dug up, transplanted and now trying to produce new leaves. They will have used up much stored energy and need to have leaves for a while to renew their strength before being subjected to further abuse.
http://shibuibonsai.com.au/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
- AllThingsGreen
- Aussie Bonsai Fan
- Posts: 31
- Joined: April 22nd, 2018, 3:57 am
- Favorite Species: Thyme Honey-Myrtle
- Bonsai Age: 0
- Bonsai Club: Wannabe-sai (private)
- Location: South Australia
- Has thanked: 2 times
- Contact:
Re: South Australia Shrub/Small Tree
G'day Shibui, Yeah i agree, its got me stumped.
Iv searched 2 plant identification apps, even in the american/european section,
Been to atleast 10 different websites and searched up probably 75-100 google images..
Legit only thing thay looks remotely close to these are the blueberry and the lemon/orange plants.
Ill have a look at the hardenbergias after a coffee tho, im not done yet.
Im glad to know the Figs will have a elevated chance of survival compaired to everything else i have.
If all else fail, ill have figs lol.
They do have fine roots all round, so i might leave them for a month or 2
then carefully pull one up just to see how they do.
Im keen to see how well the rootex works.
#RQ, will common moss from around a water tank give plants diseases?
------and, i think the wire i used to tie down the roots might be rusting,
Common sense may be the best answer but should i remove it?
Will it impact it in the long run?
Thanks heaps for your help and advice, Legend man.
Iv searched 2 plant identification apps, even in the american/european section,
Been to atleast 10 different websites and searched up probably 75-100 google images..
Legit only thing thay looks remotely close to these are the blueberry and the lemon/orange plants.
Ill have a look at the hardenbergias after a coffee tho, im not done yet.
Im glad to know the Figs will have a elevated chance of survival compaired to everything else i have.
If all else fail, ill have figs lol.
They do have fine roots all round, so i might leave them for a month or 2
then carefully pull one up just to see how they do.
Im keen to see how well the rootex works.
#RQ, will common moss from around a water tank give plants diseases?
------and, i think the wire i used to tie down the roots might be rusting,
Common sense may be the best answer but should i remove it?
Will it impact it in the long run?
Thanks heaps for your help and advice, Legend man.
- AllThingsGreen
- Aussie Bonsai Fan
- Posts: 31
- Joined: April 22nd, 2018, 3:57 am
- Favorite Species: Thyme Honey-Myrtle
- Bonsai Age: 0
- Bonsai Club: Wannabe-sai (private)
- Location: South Australia
- Has thanked: 2 times
- Contact:
Re: South Australia Shrub/Small Tree
I dont think its a hardenbergia either, the bergia leaves are long and thin.
The leaves off these trees pretty much just expand and fold outwards,
to make a Pringle/saddle looking shape.
(I also cut one of them up last night. It had 4 branches the same height
so i snipped them all and pulled the flesh off the secondary trunk.)
Not expecting it to survive, but it wasnt overly good material anyway.
The leaves off these trees pretty much just expand and fold outwards,
to make a Pringle/saddle looking shape.
(I also cut one of them up last night. It had 4 branches the same height
so i snipped them all and pulled the flesh off the secondary trunk.)
Not expecting it to survive, but it wasnt overly good material anyway.
- AllThingsGreen
- Aussie Bonsai Fan
- Posts: 31
- Joined: April 22nd, 2018, 3:57 am
- Favorite Species: Thyme Honey-Myrtle
- Bonsai Age: 0
- Bonsai Club: Wannabe-sai (private)
- Location: South Australia
- Has thanked: 2 times
- Contact:
Re: South Australia Shrub/Small Tree
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
- AllThingsGreen
- Aussie Bonsai Fan
- Posts: 31
- Joined: April 22nd, 2018, 3:57 am
- Favorite Species: Thyme Honey-Myrtle
- Bonsai Age: 0
- Bonsai Club: Wannabe-sai (private)
- Location: South Australia
- Has thanked: 2 times
- Contact:
Re: South Australia Shrub/Small Tree
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
- AllThingsGreen
- Aussie Bonsai Fan
- Posts: 31
- Joined: April 22nd, 2018, 3:57 am
- Favorite Species: Thyme Honey-Myrtle
- Bonsai Age: 0
- Bonsai Club: Wannabe-sai (private)
- Location: South Australia
- Has thanked: 2 times
- Contact:
Re: South Australia Shrub/Small Tree
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
- AllThingsGreen
- Aussie Bonsai Fan
- Posts: 31
- Joined: April 22nd, 2018, 3:57 am
- Favorite Species: Thyme Honey-Myrtle
- Bonsai Age: 0
- Bonsai Club: Wannabe-sai (private)
- Location: South Australia
- Has thanked: 2 times
- Contact:
Re: South Australia Shrub/Small Tree
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
- AllThingsGreen
- Aussie Bonsai Fan
- Posts: 31
- Joined: April 22nd, 2018, 3:57 am
- Favorite Species: Thyme Honey-Myrtle
- Bonsai Age: 0
- Bonsai Club: Wannabe-sai (private)
- Location: South Australia
- Has thanked: 2 times
- Contact:
Re: South Australia Shrub/Small Tree
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
- AllThingsGreen
- Aussie Bonsai Fan
- Posts: 31
- Joined: April 22nd, 2018, 3:57 am
- Favorite Species: Thyme Honey-Myrtle
- Bonsai Age: 0
- Bonsai Club: Wannabe-sai (private)
- Location: South Australia
- Has thanked: 2 times
- Contact:
Re: South Australia Shrub/Small Tree
Im thinking its either a Ginseng Micro or the Rubiginosa Pt.Jackson..
-
- Aussie Bonsai Fan
- Posts: 7693
- Joined: August 22nd, 2009, 8:41 pm
- Favorite Species: trident maple
- Bonsai Age: 41
- Bonsai Club: Albury/Wodonga; BSV; Canberra; VNBC
- Location: Yackandandah
- Has thanked: 68 times
- Been thanked: 1435 times
- Contact:
Re: South Australia Shrub/Small Tree
The plant you posted at the start is definitely not a ficus. Ficus have very distinctive terminal buds in a sheath that falls off as the new leaf unrolls. Your tree does not have any sign of a sheath on the terminal buds.
As I mentioned at the start, leaf shape is only one of may factors when identifying plants.
As I mentioned at the start, leaf shape is only one of may factors when identifying plants.
http://shibuibonsai.com.au/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
- AllThingsGreen
- Aussie Bonsai Fan
- Posts: 31
- Joined: April 22nd, 2018, 3:57 am
- Favorite Species: Thyme Honey-Myrtle
- Bonsai Age: 0
- Bonsai Club: Wannabe-sai (private)
- Location: South Australia
- Has thanked: 2 times
- Contact:
Re: South Australia Shrub/Small Tree
Hello folks, no luck yet.
Is anyone able to tell me what else i need to provide?
I still have not found this species, that i know of,
and the pictures seem to have been no help at all.
I got another unknown one.
It has a thick main stem and forks into 2 branches roughly 10-15cm up.
And has a 'knuckle' and every branch node.
I clipped almost every leaf off -
Only leaving 2 of the best, medium sized and complete leafs on each branch.
And left it in the shade for 2 days -
No signs of dying tips, just new, bright green growth.
I hope im not growing some type of deadly,
nightmarish- spore spawning, invasive specie haha.
-
- Aussie Bonsai Fan
- Posts: 618
- Joined: January 11th, 2016, 6:56 am
- Bonsai Age: 30
- Location: Sydney
- Has thanked: 238 times
- Been thanked: 22 times
Re: South Australia Shrub/Small Tree
Hello Mat and welcome to AusBonsai,
I'm a little confused with what you actually want identified as there are so many photos of varying plant species.
Anyway, i'll give you my best shot of the plants attached to page 1 of this thread.
The first two photos i believe to be a Citrus of some kind with an extremely ugly graft union - however the photo isn't the best and i may be seeing it wrong.
The next three photos i will second Shibui's ID with Hardenbergia violacea.
The next photo your ID was Ficus.
And your $4.99 special looks like a Westringia fruticosa.
Hope this helps and makes sense - just my
Kevin
I'm a little confused with what you actually want identified as there are so many photos of varying plant species.
Anyway, i'll give you my best shot of the plants attached to page 1 of this thread.
The first two photos i believe to be a Citrus of some kind with an extremely ugly graft union - however the photo isn't the best and i may be seeing it wrong.
The next three photos i will second Shibui's ID with Hardenbergia violacea.
The next photo your ID was Ficus.
And your $4.99 special looks like a Westringia fruticosa.
Hope this helps and makes sense - just my
Kevin
-
- Aussie Bonsai Fan
- Posts: 618
- Joined: January 11th, 2016, 6:56 am
- Bonsai Age: 30
- Location: Sydney
- Has thanked: 238 times
- Been thanked: 22 times
Re: South Australia Shrub/Small Tree
P.S. - Looking at the first photo again without the sun glare on my screen, the graft union is quite large and atypical of normal graft unions. The scion may have died or been cut off and the plant growing now could be the trees original rootstock.
Just another thought in hindsight.
Kevin
Just another thought in hindsight.
Kevin
Last edited by Kevin on April 28th, 2018, 5:33 pm, edited 1 time in total.
- Sno
- Aussie Bonsai Fan
- Posts: 1200
- Joined: January 16th, 2011, 12:26 pm
- Bonsai Age: 0
- Location: Crackenback NSW
- Has thanked: 494 times
- Been thanked: 620 times
- Contact:
Re: South Australia Shrub/Small Tree
I'm pretty sure that it's all the same tree and Shibui's ID of Hardenbergia is correct . Probably Hardenbergia alba ,if it's let to grow a bit it should flower in spring .