What species of orphan is this?
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What species of orphan is this?
Hi All,
A few years back - about three I think - I picked up a plant on a sale bench $15 at a Bonsai nursery here in Melboure. It was an ugly unit. With the pictures below - is anyone able to identify it for me please?
Here's a bit of a back story too. (Yeah, yeah -I know, I know ... I ramble on. Skip to the photos if you can't be bothered.
I wish I could find the original picture because this tree had one branch almost complete straight and extending horizontally from the base of the tree. I initially thought I would cut if off. Then I thought, why not try to create a twin trunk.
Here's the first photo I can find. I think this might be a year into me trying to raise the smaller right hand trunk. Then I started to play with designs. This photo is about 18 months ago when I moved it into a shallower training pot. I wired the taller trunk but in the end, didn't like the look. This is yesterday ... it is now in another training pot, I am going to take the top off both trunks and close try to close the gap soon too. Anyway .. with this close up - any idea of the species of my orphan? Cheers in advance.
A few years back - about three I think - I picked up a plant on a sale bench $15 at a Bonsai nursery here in Melboure. It was an ugly unit. With the pictures below - is anyone able to identify it for me please?
Here's a bit of a back story too. (Yeah, yeah -I know, I know ... I ramble on. Skip to the photos if you can't be bothered.
I wish I could find the original picture because this tree had one branch almost complete straight and extending horizontally from the base of the tree. I initially thought I would cut if off. Then I thought, why not try to create a twin trunk.
Here's the first photo I can find. I think this might be a year into me trying to raise the smaller right hand trunk. Then I started to play with designs. This photo is about 18 months ago when I moved it into a shallower training pot. I wired the taller trunk but in the end, didn't like the look. This is yesterday ... it is now in another training pot, I am going to take the top off both trunks and close try to close the gap soon too. Anyway .. with this close up - any idea of the species of my orphan? Cheers in advance.
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Re: What species of orphan is this?
MJL,
My guess is a shimpaku juniper which is displaying some juvenile foliage (the spikey stuff)
Not 100% sure though. I like the tall slender trunks.
Good future candidate for a literati style perhaps?
My guess is a shimpaku juniper which is displaying some juvenile foliage (the spikey stuff)
Not 100% sure though. I like the tall slender trunks.
Good future candidate for a literati style perhaps?
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Re: What species of orphan is this?
On a separate thread - Ken made a suggestion that the right hand trunk of this Juniper needed work. I agreed. So this morning, I started .... I’ve never used a technique like this before - using raffia and things take longer that you might imagine.
I’m off to a lunch now - indeed my beautiful wife is driving as I type! Here’s where I got too. The top needs wiring but it’s looking much better I reckon. I hope I sort of did it right!
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I’m off to a lunch now - indeed my beautiful wife is driving as I type! Here’s where I got too. The top needs wiring but it’s looking much better I reckon. I hope I sort of did it right!
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Re: What species of orphan is this?
I am a tad worried that I created a split the at the base - I was aggressively twisting (as opposed to bending) the trunk at the time. In future I will brace the base better.
I think it should survive - I have pulled it back together and perhaps the remaining cavity will become a feature?
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I think it should survive - I have pulled it back together and perhaps the remaining cavity will become a feature?
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Re: What species of orphan is this?
This is probably why you shouldn’t come back to your work after numerous wines .... nonetheless, - - wired while half cut; I’ve stopped now. I’ll give it a good haircut next week. I think the bones are better with the 2nd trunk more upright and more reflective of the curves of the main trunk. I think....
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Re: What species of orphan is this?
Hi MJL,
Compared to where it started (the initial image) I think it is looking a lot better.
I've not used raffia like the stuff in your photos - it looks kinda "papery"! Did you soak the raffia before you applied?? This helps to get it nice and tight against the trunk which obviously helps support it during the bending process. Also, as it dries out once applied it sort of shrinks to make it an even tighter fit.
I wouldn't be playing too much with it now, especially given the split. Give it time to recover and then have another look down the track, if you think it needs more bending then - go for it. As it is, it will need 12 months or more for those new bends to set.
Good stuff, always fun to have a go at something new and get your hands dirty.
Compared to where it started (the initial image) I think it is looking a lot better.
I've not used raffia like the stuff in your photos - it looks kinda "papery"! Did you soak the raffia before you applied?? This helps to get it nice and tight against the trunk which obviously helps support it during the bending process. Also, as it dries out once applied it sort of shrinks to make it an even tighter fit.
I wouldn't be playing too much with it now, especially given the split. Give it time to recover and then have another look down the track, if you think it needs more bending then - go for it. As it is, it will need 12 months or more for those new bends to set.
Good stuff, always fun to have a go at something new and get your hands dirty.
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Thanks for the feedback Ryceman. Funny - I said raffia because I was not sure what to call it! It is effectively unravelled paper string. Go easy .... it’s all I could find!
It seems I have made a few other errors too .... I didn’t wet it either! Well not until after it was applied - I did get a nice tight wrap though - I think! I treated it like I was re-gripping a squash racket - remember that old sport!
It was good to try this though and I hope it all goes ok. As you advise - I’ll rest it now; poor thing has had some trauma!
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It seems I have made a few other errors too .... I didn’t wet it either! Well not until after it was applied - I did get a nice tight wrap though - I think! I treated it like I was re-gripping a squash racket - remember that old sport!
It was good to try this though and I hope it all goes ok. As you advise - I’ll rest it now; poor thing has had some trauma!
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Re: What species of orphan is this?
Thanks RogerW. That'll make a change this weekend when I grab the keys and let my wife know that I'm off to Bunnings... actually no ... Lincraft!RogerW wrote:You can purchase raffia at Spotlite or Lincraft
Even Hadley, our mini-schnauzer, might tilt his head at that comment!
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What species of orphan is this?
Nice morning light on this tree and I know this sounds strange but the shadows tell me this tree is heading in the right direction.
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Re: What species of orphan is this?
Sorry - not sure why two of same photo.... Tapatalk gremlins.
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Re: What species of orphan is this?
Sad day today for a number of reasons - the very least being that it seems that some kind of rodent pushed a tree off a bench last night. Bummer.
So a much smaller pot, 3" off the top left, 1.5" off the lower left, a haircut and a root trim .... Sparse; better.
Still a W.I.P.
Anyway - the poor tree had become unruly and was heading to nothingness so perhaps it was just an orphan tree saying: "Hey, Hey You! Remember me - over here!"So a much smaller pot, 3" off the top left, 1.5" off the lower left, a haircut and a root trim .... Sparse; better.
Still a W.I.P.
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