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Re: Position Vacant - Assistant Curator NBPCA

Postby regwac » August 11th, 2017, 8:01 pm

There was a set agenda here . The ACT government set an agenda of a three year contract followed by opening up the opportunity to all comers . The selection committee then set about selecting a PUBLIC SERVANT based on the criteria for selecting a public servant . An inside source tells me that your ability to be good in an interview is the most important attribute.
The Bonsai community is thinking that the best Bonsai person should have been selected not the best interviewee . Perhaps the Bonsai community is right .
For the record , I know Shannon and regard him as a friend . I am disappointed for him on both the personal and professional levels .
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Re: Position Vacant - Assistant Curator NBPCA

Postby hoody6980 » August 11th, 2017, 10:12 pm

Hi all
I'm truly saddened/ disappointed In the news this week that Shannon will not retain his position at the arboretum.
I don't no of a better man suited to this job, he is a passionate thoughtful professional who always had the trees and there owners best intersest at the forefront of every decision made!
I have had the pleasure of a few of my trees being in the collection over the last few years. They came back better and stronger than when they left.

I had a call up on a random Sunday from Shannon to say "hey mate the kids were loving the fisherman under the last tree". (I had a penjing style raft with a tiny fisherman figurine on a rock)
He didn't have to make this call, I hardly new Shannon, but being a father of 2 beautiful girls who I hope will carry on my passion for Bonsai it certainly made my day.
I'm sure many others have had a similar experience which is one of the reasons we had so much confidence that our tress were in good hands because he cared!
Over the last few years Shannon and I have become good friends and my thoughts go to a man and his family who completely changed there lives to relocate to Canberra to follow his dream job...... hope the next guy has the same heart and drive.
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Re: Position Vacant - Assistant Curator NBPCA

Postby Sno » August 11th, 2017, 10:46 pm

Unfortunately I think two people don't gain from this situation . The one thing I am certain about is one person should be relieved of there job . The NBPCA is the main draw card for the arbortium , there are far better tourist destinations in Canberra . black mountain (because it has a better view ) , the War Memorial , the Aboriginal Tent Embassy to name just a few . I'm sure it has been a mutual benefit for both parties but Without the NBPCA in the arbortium it's just an expensive car park with a gift shop and cafe . There is no way the NBPCA could be run by two people ,the volunteers are a key component in its success . I would be interested to know if there was any consultation with volunteers .
I am not a volunteer ,I did express my interest in becoming a volunteer .unfortunately I have reservations now based solely on the way this decision process has been conducted .
Maybe the ACT government has plans of phasing out the volunteers because I know if this sort of behavior was mirrored in the other organistions I volunteer in , you would not have a good participation .
Liz Clarke this was very poor management . You are the person who put your name to this ,you are the person who I believe is unsuitable for your position .
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Re: Position Vacant - Assistant Curator NBPCA

Postby Keep Calm and Ramify » August 12th, 2017, 11:04 am

bodhidharma wrote:
Keep Calm and Ramify wrote:Wow, the support for Samuel is overwhelming.
Shall we burn him at the stake or just tar & feather him?
He's young & single & kept a low profile - so he can't be any good for the role right?.


Nobody has said "he can't be any good for the role" I am sympathising with Shannon and his Family. Empathy..right, remember that? Shannon did not do a thing wrong in his role as the assistant and now unemployed, wife, children, yeah. It is not about the new Guy but about the process and Shannon and his family. Well known here on A.B to us guys who have been here for a while.


:wave: Bohdi,
Empathy.....right - I do remember that!
You should probably be aware by now that the "new Guy" has a name - It's Samuel.
Implying I lack empathy for Shannon (shall we call him the "old Guy" then?) & his family, by simply welcoming the "new Guy" to a role, is an assumption that is both unfair & untrue.
Regardless of how long you've been a member of A.B. - don't make judgements about me, purely based on your own incorrect assumptions.

To save further confusion -
I do sympathise with Shannon & family for his employment loss.
I do congratulate Samuel with his new employment gain.
I wish BOTH parties all the best in overcoming the many challenges that lie ahead.
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Re: Position Vacant - Assistant Curator NBPCA

Postby Bougy Fan » August 12th, 2017, 11:13 am

OK this seem to be a passionate topic. Let's remember to keep it respectful and to discuss the topic of the new curator and not derail with comments about posters personalities and opinions.
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Re: Position Vacant - Assistant Curator NBPCA

Postby Graeme » August 12th, 2017, 4:19 pm

# Edited quote#
Keep Calm and Ramify wrote:To save further confusion -
I do sympathise with Shannon & family for his employment loss.
I do congratulate Samuel with his new employment gain.
I wish BOTH parties all the best in overcoming the many challenges that lie ahead.

Exactly, well said KC&R. In every competition there is a winner and a 2nd place. Applying for a job is simply a competition, so congratulations Samuel and commiserations Shannon.
To the many, many people who have made comment, throughout the entire Internet, they wont be lending any more trees to the NBPCA because Shannon wont be looking after them anymore, remember Samuel is but one man, the same as Shannon is. There is a whole team of mostly experienced people at the collection, who have volunteered to look after all your trees. I doubt they will stop doing that simply because Shannon isn't there holding their hands.

Good luck to both Samuel in the new job and Shannon, in whatever you decide to do, going forward.
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Re: Position Vacant - Assistant Curator NBPCA

Postby bodhidharma » August 13th, 2017, 12:57 pm

Keep Calm and Ramify wrote:To save further confusion -
I do sympathise with Shannon & family for his employment loss.
I do congratulate Samuel with his new employment gain.
I wish BOTH parties all the best in overcoming the many challenges that lie ahead.

Thank you for that and if that statement had preceded your last post it would have been more understandable. :tu2:
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Re: Position Vacant - Assistant Curator NBPCA

Postby RONG » August 13th, 2017, 2:32 pm

Lived in Canberra for 50 of my 73 years. I know how these Public Service Selection Committees operate - been on plenty in my time.

Started doing Bonsai 55 years ago - still doing them.

Is this the new NBPCA Assistant Curator?

https://au.linkedin.com/in/samuelthompson2
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Re: Position Vacant - Assistant Curator NBPCA

Postby LLK » August 13th, 2017, 3:08 pm

Yes. The details on the Linkedin page correspond with those given by Liz Clarke (see above, p.2) and the portrait on Linkedin is almost the same as that on his Facebook profile. For other photos, also on Facebook, showing Samuel Thompson's at Kunio Kobayashi's school, see p.james posts above, on p.2.

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Re: Position Vacant - Assistant Curator NBPCA

Postby RONG » August 13th, 2017, 3:42 pm

Have put the data from Linkedin together in a timeline
I make no comment but rather leave it open to you for discussion/analysis

Samuel Thompson -Linkedin Data.pdf
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Re: Position Vacant - Assistant Curator NBPCA

Postby Keep Calm and Ramify » August 13th, 2017, 3:44 pm

bodhidharma wrote:
Keep Calm and Ramify wrote:To save further confusion -
I do sympathise with Shannon & family for his employment loss.
I do congratulate Samuel with his new employment gain.
I wish BOTH parties all the best in overcoming the many challenges that lie ahead.

Thank you for that and if that statement had preceded your last post it would have been more understandable. :tu2:


It's probably more understandable if you re-read my 2 x posts within this thread, to see both were aimed at the dirty word - DISCRIMINATION.
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Re: Position Vacant - Assistant Curator NBPCA

Postby Jdceng » August 13th, 2017, 5:25 pm

Hi There

From my past experiences this sort of thing happens when you tick someone off or someone feels threatened by you :?: :?:

Just my :2c: from a different direction.
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Re: Position Vacant - Assistant Curator NBPCA

Postby bodhidharma » August 13th, 2017, 5:28 pm

Keep Calm and Ramify wrote:It's probably more understandable if you re-read my 2 x posts within this thread, to see both were aimed at the dirty word - DISCRIMINATION.


Sorry KCR, but i have now lost your meaning and have no idea how you have come to that conclusion. Also don't think further adding to this thread will have any satisfactory outcomes for either of us.
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Re: Position Vacant - Assistant Curator NBPCA

Postby John(JP) » August 13th, 2017, 5:45 pm

RONG,

Thank you for the time line data - it has helped but not in the way I thought
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Re: Position Vacant - Assistant Curator NBPCA

Postby tgward » August 13th, 2017, 7:35 pm

I'm unsure what is going on here----some of the posts seem political----but I could be wrong :lost:
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