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Pherosphaera Fitzgeraldii (Blue Mountain Pine)

Posted: March 26th, 2017, 9:16 am
by quodlibet_ens
I had one of these plants about 10 years ago in a pot, though I didn't attempt to bonsai it. I picked one up at a local native nursery in Glenbrook, N.S.W


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This time around I'm definitely looking to bonsai. I thought it resembled a juniperus squamata and would be best styled like a juniper? Here are a few pictures of the Fitzgeraldii


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The branches tend to naturally droop or weep so there are a few ideas I had to styling it:

Semi Cascade
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Cascade
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Cascade
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Any thoughts or recommendations you folks might have would be greatly appreciated!

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Re: Pherosphaera Fitzgeraldii (Blue Mountain Pine)

Posted: March 26th, 2017, 12:33 pm
by jarryd
I think these are a very interesting plant. The third image you have shown should make a convincing image for this tree. Maybe with the foliage somewhat looser and weeping. best thing you could do right now is pot it on and let it grow for quite some time. I am currently experimenting with the native Tasmanian Pherosphaera hookeriana which also seems it might be suitable for pot culture, but has a habit of browning of on the foliage tips. I have found some shade to be quite good for them :lost:

Jarryd

Re: Pherosphaera Fitzgeraldii (Blue Mountain Pine)

Posted: March 26th, 2017, 3:04 pm
by quodlibet_ens
jarryd wrote:The third image you have shown should make a convincing image for this tree. Maybe with the foliage somewhat looser and weeping. best thing you could do right now is pot it on and let it grow for quite some time. I am currently experimenting with the native Tasmanian Pherosphaera hookeriana which also seems it might be suitable for pot culture, but has a habit of browning of on the foliage tips.

I agree with the image you mentioned, Jarryd, it's probably the most suited. Are there similarities between the Fitzgeraldii and the Hookeriana? The Fitzgeraldii lives around waterfalls, so soil is always moist and the shrub shaded. I've planted mine in a larger pot with no holes to ensure soil stays moist (while stll being careful not to over water).

I'm a little disappointed I didn't pick this one up in spring or summer; I'm keen to see this one grow out.




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Re: Pherosphaera Fitzgeraldii (Blue Mountain Pine)

Posted: March 27th, 2017, 4:31 pm
by jarryd
They are some similarities, but the hookeriana has much more compact foliage, almost like shinpaku juniper. It seems to have a much larger distribution then the blue mountains species, but is still in small pockets and quite rare, they need moist locations at high altitude. They grow in full sun not just around waterfall rock faces, however cloud cover is often present on tassie mountains. It is listed as threatened so no chance for collection and pretty much all mature plants are in world heritage and national parks. Thankfully! All tassie conifers are fire sensitive and do not regenerate after fire so global warming and increases in dry electrical storms are a huge threat to these beautiful communities. Once fire has swept through the landscape tends to turn into a eucalyptus dominated community. They provide great inspiration for ourselves and future generations if we can preserve them.

The trees in the wild are fantastic in form just like perfectly natural bonsai trees in delightful alpine settings. Luckily for us bonsai growers, there are a few trees in cultivation that will provide future material to grow into bonsai for the next generation of bonsai growers.

You mentioned you placed your tree into a pot with no drainage holes, Even though these trees like lots of water, I would recommend a pot with drainage, otherwise there is to high a risk of the roots not being able to breathe and getting root rot. Best to slip pot your tree into a pot just slightly larger then the rootball, and keep moist but not wet. hope this helps.

Re: Pherosphaera Fitzgeraldii (Blue Mountain Pine)

Posted: March 27th, 2017, 5:18 pm
by ric
It looks to me as if it would do a very good job in giving Acacia howitii a run for its money in the cascade stakes.

Re: Pherosphaera Fitzgeraldii (Blue Mountain Pine)

Posted: March 29th, 2017, 6:55 pm
by quodlibet_ens
jarryd wrote:You mentioned you placed your tree into a pot with no drainage holes, Even though these trees like lots of water, I would recommend a pot with drainage, otherwise there is to high a risk of the roots not being able to breathe and getting root rot. Best to slip pot your tree into a pot just slightly larger then the rootball, and keep moist but not wet. hope this helps.
I actually repotted it yesterday and I'm glad I'm now reading your advice to do just that. At the time I thought it was a good idea, but after a day of thinking about it, it is best as you've mentioned to have some drainage.

I went an bought another one today from the same local native nursery. I think this will just be a potted specimen, but in talking to some of the folks there, they're quite keen to see how both a bonsai and potted version of the plant progress.


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Re: Pherosphaera Fitzgeraldii (Blue Mountain Pine)

Posted: March 29th, 2017, 6:56 pm
by quodlibet_ens
ric wrote:It looks to me as if it would do a very good job in giving Acacia howitii a run for its money in the cascade stakes.
I'm certainly excited to see how it goes!

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Re: Pherosphaera Fitzgeraldii (Blue Mountain Pine)

Posted: January 1st, 2018, 6:09 pm
by Thymetraveller
Hi quodlibet_ens
I jut bought a tiny Pherosphaera Fitzgeraldii from Mount Tomah Botanical Gardens.
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I'm excited about the species and am looking at it as a long term project, but I am wondering what the growth rate is like?
I notice that your first post on this thread was back in march. Any chance you could post a recent pic to show how much yours has grown?
Cheers in advance,
TT

Re: Pherosphaera Fitzgeraldii (Blue Mountain Pine)

Posted: June 5th, 2023, 12:48 pm
by Trimmy
jarryd wrote: March 26th, 2017, 12:33 pm I think these are a very interesting plant. The third image you have shown should make a convincing image for this tree. Maybe with the foliage somewhat looser and weeping. best thing you could do right now is pot it on and let it grow for quite some time. I am currently experimenting with the native Tasmanian Pherosphaera hookeriana which also seems it might be suitable for pot culture, but has a habit of browning of on the foliage tips. I have found some shade to be quite good for them :lost:

Jarryd
Hi Jarryd. How are you going with Pherosphaera Hookeriana six years on? I bought one yesterday purely on the basis that it's a native and has juniper like foliage. It's a twin trunk, so I put a piece of test wire on one of the trunks to see how it goes.