Japanese black pine

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Japanese black pine

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Hi. Can i please ask everyone for your opinion If i did it right? I hope it will give me a good development in couple of years time.

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Bend and compress more!

Get some thicker wire for that first bend and bring it down more, that way you can change the angle next repot.

Bend and compress the upper section too, these are very flexible at this thickness.
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Re: Japanese black pine

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You cut way too much off. The tree will be weakened because of it. Be careful with watering and don't touch it again until it has 4 times the amount of foliage that it does now.
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Post by Piscineidiot »

Ouch. I have to agree with Treeman on this one.

That kind of a chop is fine with most deciduous trees (provided you do it during the right time of year), ficus, and a few Aussie natives, but it's less advisable for coniferous species (pines and junipers).

Pines and junipers are less vigorous, and their foliage is designed to last for a long period, so they don't recover as quickly as deciduous trees (which routinely lose all their foliage), ficus (which evolved to regenerate quickly after tropical storms), and many aussie natives (which evolved to cope with fire and flood).

In future, might I suggest the following?:

- Pick a tree that already has most of its branches in the right places
- Grow new options by improving its health by:
1. Opening it up by needle plucking, removing obviously poor/dead branches (more light = more buds)
2. Feed the dickens out of it (more resources = more vigorous growth)

Grafting is also a possibility, but requires a bit more skill and knowledge than the above.
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Re: Japanese black pine

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Lane wrote:Bend and compress more!

Get some thicker wire for that first bend and bring it down more, that way you can change the angle next repot.

Bend and compress the upper section too, these are very flexible at this thickness.
Sir Lane, I'll do that. Thank you for your advice.

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Re: Japanese black pine

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treeman wrote:You cut way too much off. The tree will be weakened because of it. Be careful with watering and don't touch it again until it has 4 times the amount of foliage that it does now.
Sir Treeman, thank you for the advice. I will leave it alone and wait for what happen in couple of year's time.

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Re: Japanese black pine

Post by Ilithya »

Piscineidiot wrote:Ouch. I have to agree with Treeman on this one.

That kind of a chop is fine with most deciduous trees (provided you do it during the right time of year), ficus, and a few Aussie natives, but it's less advisable for coniferous species (pines and junipers).

Pines and junipers are less vigorous, and their foliage is designed to last for a long period, so they don't recover as quickly as deciduous trees (which routinely lose all their foliage), ficus (which evolved to regenerate quickly after tropical storms), and many aussie natives (which evolved to cope with fire and flood).

In future, might I suggest the following?:

- Pick a tree that already has most of its branches in the right places
- Grow new options by improving its health by:
1. Opening it up by needle plucking, removing obviously poor/dead branches (more light = more buds)
2. Feed the dickens out of it (more resources = more vigorous growth)

Grafting is also a possibility, but requires a bit more skill and knowledge than the above.
Sir Piscineidiot,

Thank you for your advice.

Ilithya

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