How to grow good bonsai stock like the Japanese nurseries

Jow · Post by **Jow** » February 10th, 2013, 6:37 pm

A couple that I did this spring. They are already getting close to pencil thick.

*edit: seems tapatalk is playing up again. Take two hosted off site.

Damian79 · Post by **Damian79** » February 10th, 2013, 8:25 pm

HI Jow
thanks for this thread. As a beginner its great to be inspired every day by new ideas and techniques. After reading a lot of posts on this thread, im going to have a crack. I actually have a couple of nursery junipers (seems thats all I can get where I live) that ill be twisting the bejeebers out of to see what happenes. Also I think ill either plant some seeds or cuttings for future use.
Once again thanks and keep the posts coming.

Damian

chinese juniper 1.jpg

The Basic stock I have access to.

lackhand · Post by **lackhand** » February 11th, 2013, 10:00 am

I'm glad I found this thread. After fighting to try and find good stock here, I've been unable to stop my urge to just grow my own, and I have 25 Chinese elm seeds cold stratifying right now (our winters aren't cold enough to just plant them). I've been doubting myself because everybody talks about collecting, or working with established nursery stock, so it's nice to know my seedlings have a bright future.

Jow · Post by **Jow** » February 11th, 2013, 10:41 am

lackhand wrote:I'm glad I found this thread. After fighting to try and find good stock here, I've been unable to stop my urge to just grow my own, and I have 25 Chinese elm seeds cold stratifying right now (our winters aren't cold enough to just plant them). I've been doubting myself because everybody talks about collecting, or working with established nursery stock, so it's nice to know my seedlings have a bright future.

Particularly if you are happy with smaller trees this can be a very quick way to get quality results.

craigw60 · Post by **craigw60** » February 11th, 2013, 11:20 am

Thats the way to do it Joe. I noticed you have put in some pretty extreme curves which means even if you want to grow trees with heavy trunks the movement will still be evident. Those last couple you showed us would be good candidates to put on a rock.
Craigw

lackhand · Post by **lackhand** » February 11th, 2013, 12:23 pm

Jow wrote:
lackhand wrote:I'm glad I found this thread. After fighting to try and find good stock here, I've been unable to stop my urge to just grow my own, and I have 25 Chinese elm seeds cold stratifying right now (our winters aren't cold enough to just plant them). I've been doubting myself because everybody talks about collecting, or working with established nursery stock, so it's nice to know my seedlings have a bright future.
Particularly if you are happy with smaller trees this can be a very quick way to get quality results.

I like all sizes of trees, so I'll probably keep some small and put some in the ground to fatten up for a few years. Might even try a mame size. I'm excited to start working with them.

anttal63 · Post by **anttal63** » February 11th, 2013, 9:59 pm

Well done Jow !!! They will reward you very quickly !!!

Scott Roxburgh · Post by **Scott Roxburgh** » February 13th, 2013, 9:04 pm

Here is a small one of mine started this year, hasn't done much in the small pot.

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It'll be going into a colander this year, like the others.

Damian79 · Post by **Damian79** » February 17th, 2013, 6:23 pm

Hi guys
I was wondering if i should make sharis on my juniper (pic above) now before wiring or get the shape gooing first then worry about it. The trunk is about 10mm thick and I plan to do some hefty wiring.

MoGanic · Post by **MoGanic** » February 18th, 2013, 11:40 am

Wire first, let it grow, get the design right. Sharis will come naturally as when you cut a branch a particular vein on the tree dies. Creating these yourself can damage the trees growth or kill it and wont look as good. Let nature do its thing

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Andrew Legg · Post by **Andrew Legg** » February 18th, 2013, 6:41 pm

Jow wrote:A couple that I did this spring. They are already getting close to pencil thick.

*edit: seems tapatalk is playing up again. Take two hosted off site.

You are a law unto yourself!

Get it? "Law" - IBC - get it?

Andrew Legg · Post by **Andrew Legg** » February 18th, 2013, 6:42 pm

Andrew Legg wrote:
Jow wrote:A couple that I did this spring. They are already getting close to pencil thick.

*edit: seems tapatalk is playing up again. Take two hosted off site.

You are a law unto yourself!

Get it? "Law" - IBC - get it?

Sorry everyone - I just found that funny!

ozzy · Post by **ozzy** » February 18th, 2013, 8:52 pm

I have wired a few different things up, I found a sheoak that I must have overlooked and its almost absorbed the wire, looks pretty cool, must get some pics.

Neli · Post by **Neli** » June 9th, 2013, 3:59 pm

I was wondering,
I have some big junipers in the ground, too hard to bend. Can I bend the top in the same manner , grow it for some time and then airlayer the top off and grow on?
Will it work?

daiviet_nguyen · Post by **daiviet_nguyen** » June 9th, 2013, 6:03 pm

Hi Neli,

Bending large conifers is not my expertise, but there is a technique where we split along the trunk/branch, insert wire(s), then bind it up with raffia, grafting tapes etc, then some more wire, then bend it using some hand "powered' instruments -- this is one of the thread in my book mark: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=5391

( I did one https://ausbonsai.com.au/forum/viewtopic ... 131&t=8610 -- but there are several mistakes. I am not so proud of this! )

There are several more, but I cannot flush them out yet.

[quote=Neli]
I was wondering,
I have some big junipers in the ground, too hard to bend. Can I bend the top in the same manner , grow it for some time and then airlayer the top off and grow on?
Will it work?
[/quote]

I think you best post a juniper in question up... that way we have a better idea of the sizes and etc.

Regards.

AusBonsai

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