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bonsaisensation wrote:

MoGanic wrote:
Hopefully Tien can shoot a couple shots of Tridents he's worked on!

Mo


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here you go Mo

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as you can see, the netting method produced the initial couple of bends into the trunk without wiring. and that is about it.
to grow a good bonsai from them, still requires wiring the rest of the trunk, cutting back to back buds to produce taper then wire the new lead for movements.
it does save a lot of time wiring and unwiring the little seedlings, when you have to do hundreds of the them.

here are some desert ash

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they are wired when they are match stick thickness. as you can see, it produced very similar result both netting and wiring.
i guess netting has a slight advantage as the seedlings can grow into rather unusual twist and bends on their own. and they are right down low on the trunk.

and what you are not seeing is the work done to the roots. i supposed they are what you'd called "trade secrets".


regards


Tien

CoGRedeMptioN wrote:

MoGanic wrote:Trees obviously don't secretly wire themselves in the middle of the night, so the way they bend is vastly different and produces different effects than anything we can achieve by hand. Pretty sure they multiply cells in certain areas (outside of a bend) and stop production of cells on the inside to create the bend.

This process is called 'Phototropism' - first a chemical (or hormone if you like) is released on the opposite side to the sun light which elongates those cells (later they divide) while the remaining cells stay unchanged..

This process is somewhat different but aids the twisted growth ...


Cheers
Elmar

Jow wrote:Its not just conifers that benefit from this technique. Deciduous, evergreen leaf trees and natives can also come up well as small twisted trees and often develop much more quickly.

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It's the right time of year to start thinking about planting seed for next seasons stock. I am planting a handful of varieties to try and those interested should make preparations of their own for next season.

Another technique i am going to try this season which may cut down on some wiring time is the use of some sort of netting over the pot to create low bends.

http://jesuscuevasbonsai.blogspot.com.a ... ambre.html An interesting article and the rest of his blog is also worth a read.

We will see how it works out.

Joe

treeman wrote:
I think we should not get too carried away with this bending. Yes it is a good technique and I certainly do it but just bending the whole seedling without giving any thought to taper will result in a sub-standard tree like the one in the second picture which too me looks very unnatural. We need to continue to practice leader replacement even though it takes longer.

Jow wrote:

treeman wrote:
I think we should not get too carried away with this bending. Yes it is a good technique and I certainly do it but just bending the whole seedling without giving any thought to taper will result in a sub-standard tree like the one in the second picture which too me looks very unnatural. We need to continue to practice leader replacement even though it takes longer.

I agree, taper is certainly a consideration although setting the bends early gives you something to work with over a straight piece of stock.

I can understand how it is not everyone's taste but really I like the last tree. Just for interests sake, it was entered in Gafu ten last year. HAVE A LOOK HERE and i think in among other styles it adds an interesting point of difference.