Australian style
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Australian style
This is a subject I do get my knickers in a knot over. Also cop a lot of flak for. What we need to establish is most trees grow in certain ways. We talk of Mallee as if it is unique, think of the Japanese word Kabudachi (clump ) around for a long time. What we need to establish is our trees that are good and a true representation of our Art (oops ) hobby.
Our trees are unique so when people see a Gum tree or a Paperbark they know where they come from. Australia.
Of the 200 and counting Melaleucas there are only 48 that are referred to as Paperbarks. Yet when you say Melaleuca the usual response is Paperbark.
A bit like Morten bay for all the figs around. .
What we need to do is make them like that Bush we are so fond of. That way we have established an Australian STYLE.
Here is a collection of my tree's all collected one was dug from a garden can you tell which one. The others were collected almost as is from our beloved bush but check out the STYLES.
Our trees are unique so when people see a Gum tree or a Paperbark they know where they come from. Australia.
Of the 200 and counting Melaleucas there are only 48 that are referred to as Paperbarks. Yet when you say Melaleuca the usual response is Paperbark.
A bit like Morten bay for all the figs around. .
What we need to do is make them like that Bush we are so fond of. That way we have established an Australian STYLE.
Here is a collection of my tree's all collected one was dug from a garden can you tell which one. The others were collected almost as is from our beloved bush but check out the STYLES.
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Re: Australian style
Lovely trees (Bonsai) Pup. I see semi cascade, clump or multi trunk, Informal Upright, Broom and Mother and Son. I don't see the need to ad any other clasification.
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Re: Australian style
Thank you for your comment Jon.
As I said Australian trees easily recognizable also the styles are as nature gave us. It is still however full of conjecture. As we have had and as I said copped flak this discussion in the clubs I belong to. There is an interesting article by Dorothy Koreshoff in the now defunct Bonsai Australis volume one issue two1993 page 5.
In issue three Page 11 there is an article on, Aspects of Australian native plants. Both are very interesting Reading. I am not sure where you could source these Mags but if you could it had the makings to be a nice magazine . Unfortunately it only lasted Three copies. While I am here may be we could have a book club here. Books people have read and recommend.
I will start by recommending The Koreshoff's book on Natives. Also Deborah Koreshoff's book The art science and philosophy of Bonsai .
Both are very good reads. Pup
As I said Australian trees easily recognizable also the styles are as nature gave us. It is still however full of conjecture. As we have had and as I said copped flak this discussion in the clubs I belong to. There is an interesting article by Dorothy Koreshoff in the now defunct Bonsai Australis volume one issue two1993 page 5.
In issue three Page 11 there is an article on, Aspects of Australian native plants. Both are very interesting Reading. I am not sure where you could source these Mags but if you could it had the makings to be a nice magazine . Unfortunately it only lasted Three copies. While I am here may be we could have a book club here. Books people have read and recommend.
I will start by recommending The Koreshoff's book on Natives. Also Deborah Koreshoff's book The art science and philosophy of Bonsai .
Both are very good reads. Pup
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Re: Australian style
Yes mate, and I'm sure not trying to create an argument here as I'm as sure as you are that there is no winner in this discussion.Pup said
As I said Australian trees easily recognizable also the styles are as nature gave us. It is still however full of conjecture. As we have had and as I said copped flak this discussion in the clubs I belong to
Pup, as the publication is now defunct, I think that perhaps you could post it here just as long as you give credit to the necessary people. You have wet my appetite and I wait with anticipation.
Great idea Pup, I started a thread under Media for you.While I am here may be we could have a book club here.
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Re: Australian style
No the twin trunk it was not my garden though. Some one who was redesigning there's.Hector Johnson wrote:Is the raphiophylla (4th down) the one that came from your garden?
Reason for the two tree's is the main one died leaving me with a smaller one and a stump I left them for two years.
Just pinching, then decided to wire so the inside stopped dying back. Like Linarifolia does. Pup
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Re: Australian style
I like your choice of pots. You have chosen very well to match the Aussie feel of the tree with the pot. It's definitely a talent.
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Re: Australian style
Pup you are 110% right, I dont belive we should try to force our natives to look like traditional bonsai forms. Our out back has all the styles that we are used to & a few others, just a little more natural.
Pup your trees are some of the best of natural native looking trees that I have seen, it maybe up to you to start some sort of classification on our styles, just like the South Africans have or does anyone have an idea of where to start.
Both the selection of your pots & the quality of the trees are 1st Class mate.
Cheers
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Pup your trees are some of the best of natural native looking trees that I have seen, it maybe up to you to start some sort of classification on our styles, just like the South Africans have or does anyone have an idea of where to start.
Both the selection of your pots & the quality of the trees are 1st Class mate.
Cheers
Skip
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Re: Australian style
Hey Scip thanks for the vote of whatever.
I believe that the styles represented as they are is sufficant. It is just that most people associate Australia with either Gum trees or Banksia's.
So we will never really do any thing but chase our tails on Australian styles.
The African style as you suggested is it really accepted? I have seen very similar styles from India.
By the way it is Peter Chan & Dan Barton. Just name dropping but really looking forward to it. Pup
I believe that the styles represented as they are is sufficant. It is just that most people associate Australia with either Gum trees or Banksia's.
So we will never really do any thing but chase our tails on Australian styles.
The African style as you suggested is it really accepted? I have seen very similar styles from India.
By the way it is Peter Chan & Dan Barton. Just name dropping but really looking forward to it. Pup
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