Murraya Leaf Techniques

Jimbomelville · Post by **Jimbomelville** » July 7th, 2015, 12:36 pm

I have a Murraya Paniculata stump that I will be working on in Spring/Summer.
I have been searching high & low for information on ramification with plants with a compound leaf.
Can anyone direct me to an information source?

Elmar · Post by **Elmar** » July 7th, 2015, 1:55 pm

Hah! X2!
I have a couple of smaller Murraya... Not that k can see the compound leaf, mind you.

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EZ
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treeman · Post by **treeman** » July 7th, 2015, 4:54 pm

Just treat a compound leaf like any other leaf. You can defoliate Murraya easily too.

Post by **kcpoole** » July 7th, 2015, 6:47 pm

I just remove the second leaf as they are larger than the first one.
Cut back shotts and branches to develop ramificatuon as usual with any other tree

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Jimbomelville · Post by **Jimbomelville** » July 7th, 2015, 10:36 pm

Thanks everyone.
Makes me feel more comfortable with it.

Elmar · Post by **Elmar** » July 8th, 2015, 8:59 am

I have just taken a happy-snap of my Murray p. dwarf:

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Which is the 'second' leaf?

Post by **kcpoole** » July 8th, 2015, 9:15 am

the one circled in Red I consider the "second leaf"

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it is the one that comes the middle of the first pair. ( Ok technically it is the third leaf), but the other 2 (in green) come out together and are always smaller.
the red one is stronger and elongates much more.

Ken

Elmar · Post by **Elmar** » July 8th, 2015, 12:27 pm

Thx Ken,
These are the ones you suggested I trim off!?!

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Post by **kcpoole** » July 8th, 2015, 12:31 pm

Elmar wrote:Thx Ken,
These are the ones you suggested I trim off!?!

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EZ
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Yep the ones in red.
removing them will cause the others to stop increasing in size and promote back budding for ramification.

Ken

GavinG · Post by **GavinG** » July 8th, 2015, 3:42 pm

it depends on whether you want the trunk to thicken reasonably quickly, or whether you want to keep the plant small and tight. You can let Murray's grow long to thicken them, then cut back hard once a year. The continual pinching is useful after you've made an interesting trunk - that's when you pinch for smaller leaves.

Gavin

Post by **kcpoole** » July 8th, 2015, 4:39 pm

GavinG wrote:it depends on whether you want the trunk to thicken reasonably quickly, or whether you want to keep the plant small and tight. You can let Murray's grow long to thicken them, then cut back hard once a year. The continual pinching is useful after you've made an interesting trunk - that's when you pinch for smaller leaves.

Gavin

Yep totally agree.
I assumed that the trunk and branching has been finished and now into the foliage control stage of the tree. No point in trying to control the foliage if it is not ready, but that applies to all species of trees we use as Bonsai.

Ken

Elmar · Post by **Elmar** » July 8th, 2015, 7:59 pm

Thank you gents.

But lost on this one! I'd like to make it a small tree 100-150mm max., but it's terribly 2 dimensional!
I guess, if I let it grow for a season that would improve the trunk then cut back hard to control the size...

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Elmar

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