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Re: A tree for all zones and styles

Posted: September 9th, 2009, 6:39 pm
by Pup
FlyBri wrote:Hey Mr Pup!

What are your thoughts about approach grafting with Mels? I know the bark can be quite thick and fibrous, but I have a branch that's really close to where it needs to be, and I'm curious if I can make it work... I'm prepared to cut into the 'stock' part of the tree in order to expediate the process.

Thanks in advance!

Fly.

PS: You well know that I'm likely to give it a go before you get a chance to answer. :twisted:
Hey what :? . Fly I have never tried it on thick or should say Paperbarks , but I have on the others with the same success rate as other trees.
I have no doubt it should work, but what the time frame will be is interesing. If you look closely at the laceolata wind swept you will where I am trying this one. As I have said this type or as the common name on most others that are not flaky or paperbarks as Honey Myrtles do work.
As you said you are going to try it so please keep us posted. What species is it ?. :)

Re: A tree for all zones and styles

Posted: September 9th, 2009, 7:38 pm
by Pup
daiviet_nguyen wrote:Hi Pup,

I like the clump best :)

Best regards.
Daiviet, I have been searching though the photos of where this was dug up.
Theres a picture of Mrs pup searching for HER Clump.
There she stands hands on hips saying dig that one for me, then I will be nice to you :oops: .
Well here are the pics
DSCN0439.JPG
DSCN0443.JPG
DSCN0444.JPG
What do you mean the camera was not on!!. I don't know whether she was nice to me either.
If you blow up to natural size pic443 you will see the group behind her and to the right of the bigger 3 tree clump at the left.

Re: A tree for all zones and styles

Posted: September 9th, 2009, 8:48 pm
by bodhidharma
hello Pup, sorry about using your post to identify stuff but it saves making a new post. Here is the culprit.

Re: A tree for all zones and styles

Posted: September 9th, 2009, 9:54 pm
by Pup
Not a problem this post is all about Melaleuca's.
Thank you for such concise pictures looking at this foliage I would say it is.
Melaleuca styphelioides ( prickly Paperbark )
The distribution of this Eastern States tree which is commonly cultivated as a street tree.
Is along water courses from Queensland to the south coast of N.S.W.

The late Nell Saffin was very keen in her use of these as Bonsai. She wrote of them in this manner.
Melaleuca styphelioides would appear to be an excellent subject for Bonsai, if one is to judge by the imposing list of desirable characteristics it has to offer.
The leaves are so small that they are in proportion even for Shohin Bonsai.
So I have another one on my ever growing list to look out for.
Her article in the now defunct Magazine Bonsai Australis goes on to say propagation is easy either from seed!!! or from tip cuttings.
There is a photograph with the article in BW unfortunately.
The caption reads.
A Japanese Bonsai Master viewing these Melaleuca said of them

" If I could create a Bonsai as beautiful as these tree's, then I would have truly created perfection "
So Bodi you have something to look forward and up to!! I hope this helps you some. :) Pup

Re: A tree for all zones and styles

Posted: September 9th, 2009, 10:00 pm
by bodhidharma
thanks for the prompt reply Pup...seems i have had a score... you da man

Re: A tree for all zones and styles

Posted: September 9th, 2009, 10:22 pm
by Pup
bodhidharma wrote:thanks for the prompt reply Pup...seems i have had a score... you da man
Hi not a prob, but if I may can you please not use that phrase

YOU DA MAN it is a personal thing. I take no offence from you on it :) Pup

Last person who said that to me a few times turned and insulted me, So I am hoping it will not be a repeat :)

Re: A tree for all zones and styles

Posted: September 10th, 2009, 12:36 pm
by bodhidharma
Sorry Pup, Wasnt being personal. from me it was gratitude. :oops: Look forward to our meeting one day.

Re: A tree for all zones and styles

Posted: September 10th, 2009, 1:11 pm
by Pup
bodhidharma wrote:Sorry Pup, Wasnt being personal. from me it was gratitude. :oops: Look forward to our meeting one day.
None taken mate no need to feel embarrassed, you were not to know. I know you have more taste than the other I#*~t. I just thought to let you know.
I have also told that person to read the dictionary he might learn something. Like the person who is resorting to personal attacks.
AH!! the price of fame :twisted: :roll: :lol: :P

I also look forward to meeting up with you. ;) :lol: Pup

Re: A tree for all zones and styles

Posted: September 10th, 2009, 1:14 pm
by bodhidharma
Thank you

Re: A tree for all zones and styles

Posted: September 11th, 2009, 10:45 am
by FlyBri
Pup wrote:
FlyBri wrote:Hey Mr Pup!

What are your thoughts about approach grafting with Mels? I know the bark can be quite thick and fibrous, but I have a branch that's really close to where it needs to be, and I'm curious if I can make it work... I'm prepared to cut into the 'stock' part of the tree in order to expediate the process.

Thanks in advance!

Fly.

PS: You well know that I'm likely to give it a go before you get a chance to answer. :twisted:
Hey what :? . Fly I have never tried it on thick or should say Paperbarks , but I have on the others with the same success rate as other trees.
I have no doubt it should work, but what the time frame will be is interesing. If you look closely at the laceolata wind swept you will where I am trying this one. As I have said this type or as the common name on most others that are not flaky or paperbarks as Honey Myrtles do work.
As you said you are going to try it so please keep us posted. What species is it ?. :)
Gday Team Oz!

Pup - the Mel is question is my M. armillaris, and the branch in question either needs to move or be removed entirely. Please check the photo below.
Mel_Amarillis_Sep_09_03.jpg
I'll need to address the issue soon, before I do some 'tidy-up' wiring. I'll keep you posted. ;)

Thanks.

Fly.

Re: A tree for all zones and styles

Posted: September 11th, 2009, 11:31 am
by Pup
G,day Fly looking at the picture showing the bark at the point in question. I do not see a problem it is very similar to the one I did which worked well.
So please keep us posted I am curious as to the time factor. Mine was done at about this time of year, but it was warmer and drier than we are experiencing now.
24 mms of rain since 6-30 pm last night till 9-00 am. We are certainly getting a wet and cool spring to what we are used too. ;) :)

Re: A tree for all zones and styles

Posted: February 17th, 2012, 10:22 pm
by MattA
:bump:

Re: A tree for all zones and styles

Posted: February 18th, 2012, 12:45 pm
by Steve Warren
I have not seen this post until now. What a brilliant article by Pup on the lovely Mel's. I will be saving this one for future reference. I have included one of Pups Pics of a Mel Rhaph. I purchased from him 4months ago. It doesn't look too much different and I have no new Photos to post. It was a little root bound and I started to loose some leaves. A recent repot has seen it rebound to its former glory. Due to this small set back I have not done anything extravegant to it.Once it regains its full strength I hope to start some minor changes to make it my own. It loves to drink and it is important to keep the water up. I intend to remove all but 3-4 leaves on each branch in the next 2 weeks, so I will post and update then. I must say it is a pleasure to own one of Pups babies. I just have to make sure I don't kill it.

Re: A tree for all zones and styles

Posted: February 18th, 2012, 3:09 pm
by harry
Thank you for bumping this Matt I have read it with interest and am seriouly think of getting into Melaleucas now. There are two people on this site that have knowledge of them as good subjects, I just have to catch up to both.

Craig and Pup. I will also have to have deep pockets I think. Harry

Re: A tree for all zones and styles

Posted: February 18th, 2012, 8:03 pm
by Bretts
Thanks for the Bump Matt I enjoyed reading this again.

Danica and I had a great laugh about the love of Mrs Pup. I can just imagine her standing there telling Mr Pup to dig the clump for her or she won't be nice to him.

I can't think of anyone that I would rather tell me off. :wave:

Any chance of the pruning tutorial promised for these Pup.