Can I air layer Chinese Elms now?

Discussions about propagating from cuttings, seeds, air layers etc. Going on a dig (Yamadori) or thinking of importing? Discuss how, when and where here.
Post Reply
User avatar
Ryceman3
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 2616
Joined: October 19th, 2014, 10:39 am
Favorite Species: Pines & Mels
Bonsai Age: 7
Location: Melbourne
Has thanked: 1067 times
Been thanked: 1598 times

Can I air layer Chinese Elms now?

Post by Ryceman3 »

Hi there,

This is my first post and my experience with bonsai is limited, but my enthusiasm is high!
I have read a little about air layering and there is a good chance I will be in the possession of some Chinese Elms (full size - not bonsai) next week which I'm looking to cut down/bonsai. But without seeing them up close, I was pondering the idea of air layering the upper branches before I do that to maximise yield from the trees and make the most of the stock. Can I air layer a Chinese Elm in October (I'm in Melbourne) successfully and does anybody have any "must do" techniques/strategies to successfully air layering a Chinese Elm - I've never done it before but I'm excited! I understand they are pretty easy to work with so that is comforting.

Thanks in advance!

:fc:
User avatar
Ray M
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 1403
Joined: November 5th, 2009, 3:36 pm
Favorite Species: Figs, Junipers, Maples, Elms, Pines, Banksias
Bonsai Age: 31
Bonsai Club: The School of Bonsai
Location: Winston Hills NSW
Been thanked: 15 times

Re: Can I air layer Chinese Elms now?

Post by Ray M »

Hi Ryceman3,
Yes, you can do Chinese Elms now. One of the great things about layering is that you can choose some large branches, which could save many years of growing.

Regards Ray
Last edited by Ray M on October 23rd, 2014, 10:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Ryceman3
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 2616
Joined: October 19th, 2014, 10:39 am
Favorite Species: Pines & Mels
Bonsai Age: 7
Location: Melbourne
Has thanked: 1067 times
Been thanked: 1598 times

Re: Can I air layer Chinese Elms now?

Post by Ryceman3 »

Thanks Ray, I'm looking forward to it. Am I right in thinking air layering is a better option than just taking cuttings?
User avatar
Ray M
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 1403
Joined: November 5th, 2009, 3:36 pm
Favorite Species: Figs, Junipers, Maples, Elms, Pines, Banksias
Bonsai Age: 31
Bonsai Club: The School of Bonsai
Location: Winston Hills NSW
Been thanked: 15 times

Re: Can I air layer Chinese Elms now?

Post by Ray M »

Ryceman3 wrote:Thanks Ray, I'm looking forward to it. Am I right in thinking air layering is a better option than just taking cuttings?
Hi Ryceman33,
Yes, when doing Air Layers you can choose whatever diameter branch you desire. If the layer is done correctly you will have roots on a Chinese Elm in two to three months. You will also produce a root system that is spread evenly around the tree.

PS Check your PM. I have sent you a message.

Regards Ray
Last edited by Ray M on October 24th, 2014, 8:05 am, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Ray M
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 1403
Joined: November 5th, 2009, 3:36 pm
Favorite Species: Figs, Junipers, Maples, Elms, Pines, Banksias
Bonsai Age: 31
Bonsai Club: The School of Bonsai
Location: Winston Hills NSW
Been thanked: 15 times

Re: Can I air layer Chinese Elms now?

Post by Ray M »

Hi Ryceman3,
This is a photo of the Variegated Chinese Elm I mentioned to you. It was layered on 19 October at the School Of Bonsai exhibition. The layer is looking quite healthy and there is new growth appearing.
IMG_9698 -2.jpg
Regards Ray
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Andrew Legg
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 1404
Joined: June 24th, 2010, 6:23 pm
Favorite Species: The ones that don't die
Bonsai Age: 15
Bonsai Club: Oyama Bonsai Kai, Ausbonsai
Location: Cape Town, South Africa
Been thanked: 2 times

Re: Can I air layer Chinese Elms now?

Post by Andrew Legg »

And if you layer at a branch junction you can get a nice base flare. Plan your angle well as well as you can get good movement that way too.
User avatar
Ray M
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 1403
Joined: November 5th, 2009, 3:36 pm
Favorite Species: Figs, Junipers, Maples, Elms, Pines, Banksias
Bonsai Age: 31
Bonsai Club: The School of Bonsai
Location: Winston Hills NSW
Been thanked: 15 times

Re: Can I air layer Chinese Elms now?

Post by Ray M »

Hi Ryceman3,
The following couple of photos will show what Andrew is saying.
IMG_4917 -2.jpg
This one is a ground layer, but you still apply the same approach to an aerial layer. Note the angle of the top cut. The roots will grow out parrallel to the ground. After the layer is removed and planted the trunk will be at an angle to the ground level.
IMG_4820 -2.jpg
This one was layered at a point where there was flare on the trunk. As the roots thicken they will enhance the flare.

Regards Ray
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
User avatar
Ryceman3
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 2616
Joined: October 19th, 2014, 10:39 am
Favorite Species: Pines & Mels
Bonsai Age: 7
Location: Melbourne
Has thanked: 1067 times
Been thanked: 1598 times

Re: Can I air layer Chinese Elms now?

Post by Ryceman3 »

Thanks Andrew for the tip and also to you Ray for the explanatory photos!

Looking forward to getting into this process very shortly, as soon as I pick up these elms!

Cheers guys!
Post Reply

Return to “Propagation, Collecting and Importing”