Collected Wisteria

[Ray M]

Hi Ken,
Well mate, it looks like they have taken off very well. Great to see some flowers, that should be a good sign of what they will produce in the future.

Regards Ray

[SpongeMann]

Oh man ! Those trees are looking amazing. Great work. Do you have a thread for your Virginia Creepers?

[SpongeMann]

Great growth also. What do you feed your Wisteria.

[kcpoole]

Oh man ! Those trees are looking amazing. Great work. Do you have a thread for your Virginia Creepers?

Not a thread of them, but I have one posted in this thread here viewtopic.php?f=18&t=15506&hilit=+virginia#p158236
This one here has a pic of both of them viewtopic.php?f=104&t=17721&hilit=+virginia#p179015

Ken

[SpongeMann]

Hi ken I think Bodhi was right my friend. Virginia creeper has 5 leaflets per leaf. And Boston Poison Ivy has 3.

[SpongeMann]

[SpongeMann]

But your trees are still very cool. I dont have any yet.

[kcpoole]

Hi ken I think Bodhi was right my friend. Virginia creeper has 5 leaflets per leaf. And Boston Poison Ivy has 3.

OK thanks for the ID.
i was told they were VC when I grabbed the cuttings, so continued in that light
I will rename my pictures as appropriate.

Ken

[kcpoole]

Upon looking further, most photos I can find of Boston Ivy, show a single leaf with 3 distinct lobes similar to trident maple like these
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parthenoci ... ata%29.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... uilles.jpg

a few leaves look like 3 separate ones but not many.


Parthenocissus_semicordata, looks very close to it though which I will go with. The leaves on the tree look a lot exactly like this one, and have a rough texture as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parthenocissus_semicordata
http://www.asianflora.com/Vitaceae/Part ... layana.htm

Ken

[SpongeMann]

Your welcome . And I would go with P. Semicordata. I grew up in Massachussetts. Ive felt the rath of that ivy running through the woods. Lol Have a good one

[kcpoole]

After a great start, upon checking my trees this morning i notice both of these have serious rot issues and dieback, and upon investigation find lots of grubs under the dead bark.

brings up a few questions,

what sort of grubs are they? To me it looks like 2 different types. I cannot find a match so any help would be good.
1 with stumpy brown body and many short legs
the other thin white grub with brown head.

Does the Grubs cause the dieback and thus rot?

if so how to stop them being infested and causing it?

If they are just opportunistic and infest a rotting tree then how do we stop them in the first place. the cut ends stay dry and were treated so do not quite get the process in place

Lastly, Ideas on what to do now?
I will cut back all dead wood and treat the ends again but will it continue?

Ken

[thoglette]

the other thin white grub with brown head.

fungus gnat?

[Inspired]

I have had them and they are nasty!

I have noticed a trend and I they are some type of borers and will destroy your trees very quickly.

All my trees that have been attacked was in too much shade (ie against the fence and it always seem to be the side facing the fence that gets attacked first or under a very heavy canopy where the sun don't shine)

There will be many so I've had to use wire to get them, break into cavities, tried, sprays but not confident to reach them, used blow torch etc

[Inspired]

btw very nice Wisterias indeed!

The rot was not there fyi, not sure how they get there but I think they get laid into very small crevices and tunnel their way in. Often at the bast of trunks and by the time you realise, your tree (or at least in my case) have weakened tremendously and have caused diebacks and rots of many parts often destroying the the look as it rots from inside out.

Good luck but yes asap surgical op needed

[thoglette]

1 with stumpy brown body and many short legs

Slaters? a.k.a. woodlouse

They love damp, dark places with lots of fungus and rotting plant material to feed on. Will eat seedings but mostly harmless.