Ground Planting in Colanders

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Re: Ground Planting in Colanders

Postby Jag001 » March 23rd, 2017, 9:58 pm

Ray Thanks for Showing this, I have been wondering if I would have success with Air Layering a Swampy, by the looks of it the ground layer was a roaring success so I am assuming that the air layer would be equally successful.

Ray I am curious did you ring bark this for the ground layer or did you use a wire tourniquet?

Can you expand on your layering method for this particular tree?

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Re: Ground Planting in Colanders

Postby wal » March 23rd, 2017, 10:37 pm

Such a great idea
Thank you :yes:

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Re: Ground Planting in Colanders

Postby Ray M » March 24th, 2017, 4:43 pm

Jag001 wrote:Ray Thanks for Showing this, I have been wondering if I would have success with Air Layering a Swampy, by the looks of it the ground layer was a roaring success so I am assuming that the air layer would be equally successful.

Ray I am curious did you ring bark this for the ground layer or did you use a wire tourniquet?

Can you expand on your layering method for this particular tree?

regards,
jeff

Hi Jeff,
Swamp Cyprus air layer very well. You should have very good success with these.

Have a look at this thread, it will give the whole process of how I do the ground layers. Ground Layering

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Re: Ground Planting in Colanders

Postby wal » March 24th, 2017, 6:34 pm

Got a few pots today :tu:
As i don't have gardens i will be planting them in the foam boxes i got yesterday
Thank you again for sharing this wonderful idea

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Re: Ground Planting in Colanders

Postby Jarad » March 24th, 2017, 6:46 pm

How thick is your swampy Jeff?

At what diameter does air layering become a better option than cuttings Ray?

Can't fault your enthusiasm Wal!
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Re: Ground Planting in Colanders

Postby wal » March 24th, 2017, 6:50 pm

Jarad wrote:How thick is your swampy Jeff?

At what diameter does air layering become a better option than cuttings Ray?

Can't fault your enthusiasm Wal!


Thank you Jarad
I really am passionate about Bonsai and i spring out of bed every morning. It has had such a positive impact on my life. Only regret is not starting years ago

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Re: Ground Planting in Colanders

Postby [ Kane ] » March 24th, 2017, 7:14 pm

wal wrote:Got a few pots today :tu:
As i don't have gardens i will be planting them in the foam boxes i got yesterday
Thank you again for sharing this wonderful idea

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Good one mate
There is going to be a run on of these in the discount stores....
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Re: Ground Planting in Colanders

Postby Jag001 » March 24th, 2017, 8:31 pm

Jarad wrote:How thick is your swampy Jeff?

At what diameter does air layering become a better option than cuttings Ray?

Can't fault your enthusiasm Wal!


Jarrad,

It all depends on where I choose to layer it. I have not had a great deal of success in the past with Swampy cuttings.

The section I would like to layer has a trunk diameter of approximately 30 mm. I have a swampy that is currently about 1.5 m tall and I want to shorten the entire trunk down and train a new leader to increase the taper on the tree. I hate wasting a section of truck that would probably end up being about 1 meter tall if I get it to layer off.

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Re: Ground Planting in Colanders

Postby Jag001 » March 24th, 2017, 8:36 pm

Ray M wrote:
Jag001 wrote:Ray Thanks for Showing this, I have been wondering if I would have success with Air Layering a Swampy, by the looks of it the ground layer was a roaring success so I am assuming that the air layer would be equally successful.

Ray I am curious did you ring bark this for the ground layer or did you use a wire tourniquet?

Can you expand on your layering method for this particular tree?

regards,
jeff

Hi Jeff,
Swamp Cyprus air layer very well. You should have very good success with these.

Have a look at this thread, it will give the whole process of how I do the ground layers. Ground Layering

Regards Ray


Thanks Ray,

your process is clear and obviously you have had a great deal of success with it, thanks for sharing.

A further question if I may, specifically in relation to Swampy's, have you air layered one before? if so did you use the same method?

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Re: Ground Planting in Colanders

Postby Ray M » March 24th, 2017, 9:03 pm

Jag001 wrote:
your process is clear and obviously you have had a great deal of success with it, thanks for sharing.

A further question if I may, specifically in relation to Swampy's, have you air layered one before? if so did you use the same method?

regards,
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Hi Jeff,
Yes, I have layered many Swampys. This link is one that I did some time back. Twin trunk

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Re: Ground Planting in Colanders

Postby Ray M » March 24th, 2017, 9:18 pm

Jarad wrote:How thick is your swampy Jeff?

At what diameter does air layering become a better option than cuttings Ray?

Can't fault your enthusiasm Wal!

Hi Jarad,
That's a hard question to answer. I have layered Swampys at various diameters. A point to consider is the diameter of the section you want to layer, if it's fairly small in diameter, remember that it is going to be ring barked, so make sure it has enough diameter to cope with this and still have enough strength left in the hardwood to support the tree. I haven't had a failure with layering Swampys, I couldn't guarantee that I would have the same success with cuttings. Another point is that you can layer quite large diameter Swampys.

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Re: Ground Planting in Colanders

Postby Jag001 » March 25th, 2017, 2:39 pm

Ray,

you have been a wealth of information and I thank you for that. One last question, what is the composition of your Muck?

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Re: Ground Planting in Colanders

Postby Ray M » March 25th, 2017, 7:20 pm

Jag001 wrote:Ray,

you have been a wealth of information and I thank you for that. One last question, what is the composition of your Muck?

cheers,
jeff

Hi Jeff,
My muck is made up of ground clay and Cow manure. I purchase a bag of Cow manure that is ready to use in the garden. I place this is a plastic garbage bin that has a clip lid. I put some water in on top of the Cow manure and leave it there until I need to use it. The mix is 50/50 ground clay and Cow manure. I mix this so that it is like Plasticine. If it is too thin it will fall off the layer.

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Re: Ground Planting in Colanders

Postby Jag001 » March 25th, 2017, 8:43 pm

Thanks Ray.

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