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The picture sits quite nice on my computer screen too :)
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daiviet_nguyen wrote:Hi,

I second the gallery suggestion.

Would you please tell us how long has this one been in your care for Pup?
By the colour, I think the pot is Chinese?

Would I repeat somebody if I say that the tree and the pot marry up perfectly.

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Thanks Viet, The tree was a yamadori, from Denmark in the south west of WA near the coast 5 years ago. Yes the pot is Chinese. Funny I did not like it in that pot and have since changed it, same colour different shape. Pup
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Having made that remark about the pot. I thought I had better show the new one.
While taking the pics I also noticed the roots coming down from the trunk like aerial roots of Ficus.
This should also answer the queries on air layering.
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What do you think of the new pot? I would be interested as I have had comments on both. Good and bad :) Pup
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i think i prefer the new pot.

the old pot felt a little tight, and had a japanese feel to it.

although this is a strong tree, i feel that the new pot with its flared shape has a more delicate touch and suits the tree's strong but somehow delicate appearence.
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Pup, while I don't know too much about styling mels, would the tree not benefit from tighter and flatter foliage pads? Right now they do look very bushy.

I do like the new pot, it gives a better feel to it being a semi cascade.
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Asus101 wrote:Pup, while I don't know too much about styling mels, would the tree not benefit from tighter and flatter foliage pads? Right now they do look very bushy.

I do like the new pot, it gives a better feel to it being a semi cascade.


Asus it is very hard to get it tighter , if you pinch at the wrong time you stop it, if you miss it gets long.
Then if you have just re potted like I have, you have to wait.
So long story short it will come down tighter like the first pic. :D Pup
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Could you wire it down more?
i kinda have the pine foliage pad in vision here, I think it would set it off nicely.
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Hi Pup,

I like this pot too.

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Asus101 wrote:Could you wire it down more?
i kinda have the pine foliage pad in vision here, I think it would set it off nicely.
I must admit that the thought of wiring every little twig brings tears to my old eyes, that is not the problem.
Apart from arthritis they do not like to be pushed beyond parallel.
I have tried many times only to have the twig or branch die on me. That is more disappointing than having the foliage sit up a bit.
I have tried turnbuckles even wrapping the branch in raffia.
So I will stay with the steady approach as Bonsai is a Patients, game. Pup :D
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This tree really has the 'WOW' factor for me Pup, but... I don't like either pot.

The current one is better than the first however in my opinion they are not a perfect mix - too Asian. This graceful yet rugged tree needs to be in something special, something like your...
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This style, a bit deeper and in a similar shape to your current choice would give balance to the aged windswept tree.

Just my 2c worth,

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AusBonsai wrote:
The current one is better than the first however in my opinion they are not a perfect mix - too Asian.
I think the tree really needs to feel asian. The open, thick pads don't really work in this case. The open canopy mallee style doesn't fit with the rugged, side of cliff, struggle to survive cascade. It cant spread its roots, it cant devour nutrients so it cant produce large thick pads.

its honestly the first time I feel strongly about the asian style on an aussie tree..
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The simplicity and understated elegance of the pot is a good counter balance to the rugged beauty of the tree. Anything more ornate would detract from the tree.
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Asus101 wrote:
AusBonsai wrote:
The current one is better than the first however in my opinion they are not a perfect mix - too Asian.
I think the tree really needs to feel asian. The open, thick pads don't really work in this case. The open canopy mallee style doesn't fit with the rugged, side of cliff, struggle to survive cascade. It cant spread its roots, it cant devour nutrients so it cant produce large thick pads.

its honestly the first time I feel strongly about the asian style on an aussie tree..

I see that you did not take much notice of the shots I posted. Where your comment was (our native junipers). This tree was dug from a windswept swamp
so it is growing as an Australian tree grows given the condition where it is growing.
Up in the Mid west of WA is a town called Greenough. It has Eucalyptus trees growing in a windswept paddock and on the side of the road as SEMI cascade. Native gums growing as they do under conditions that dictate the way they grow.
The name is Eucalyptus camaldulensis. :D Pup so there
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AusBonsai wrote:This tree really has the 'WOW' factor for me Pup, but... I don't like either pot.

The current one is better than the first however in my opinion they are not a perfect mix - too Asian. This graceful yet rugged tree needs to be in something special, something like your...
P1010291.JPG
This style, a bit deeper and in a similar shape to your current choice would give balance to the aged windswept tree.

Just my 2c worth,

S.
This tree by the way is the one that got an Honorable mention in the last world Bonsai comp. Unfortunately when Pat Kennedy's pots arrived the one cascade I saw was not big enough so we have to work with what we have on that one.
If pat is reading please pm me so I can give you the dimensions.
Pup I do appreciate this input it makes you stop and think. Pup :D
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Pup wrote:
Asus101 wrote:
AusBonsai wrote:
The current one is better than the first however in my opinion they are not a perfect mix - too Asian.
I think the tree really needs to feel asian. The open, thick pads don't really work in this case. The open canopy mallee style doesn't fit with the rugged, side of cliff, struggle to survive cascade. It cant spread its roots, it cant devour nutrients so it cant produce large thick pads.

its honestly the first time I feel strongly about the asian style on an aussie tree..

I see that you did not take much notice of the shots I posted. Where your comment was (our native junipers). This tree was dug from a windswept swamp
so it is growing as an Australian tree grows given the condition where it is growing.
Up in the Mid west of WA is a town called Greenough. It has Eucalyptus trees growing in a windswept paddock and on the side of the road as SEMI cascade. Native gums growing as they do under conditions that dictate the way they grow.
The name is Eucalyptus camaldulensis. :D Pup so there
Ah yes, but when one creates a cascade or semi cascade, they are not trying to create a tree cascading in a swamp. After all its a swamp and the tree cant grow below its own roots.
Even as a windswept, it still looks like it has too thick a foliage pad.
I do like the tree pup, but it just doesn't look right in my eye's.

Oh, collect me a few of those Eucs and mels pls....
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