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Soil Mix

Post by KateW »

Does anyone have a soil recipe they would like to share using easy to obtain ingredients? I’m having trouble locating soil

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Re: Soil Mix

Post by shibui »

Oh Kate :( This will reopen that old can of worms again.
Everybody has a different mix and they will all tell you that theirs is the best and only one.

You could probably find this info with the search button as we've had a number of threads in the past but here goes

My mix is 70% mini pine bark, 30% propagating sand with a little zeolite and dolomite to balance pH as well as the required fertiliser. I use that with all the trees here.
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Post by treeman »

After you've tried Shibui's amateurish mix, you can try the best.

I'm currently selling this stuff.....
1 part sand
1 part bark nuggets
1 part shredded bark
1 part soft akadama
1 part hard akadama
1 part medium akadama
1 part kanuma
1 part Chinese hill soil
1 part Chinese mountain soil
1 part shreaded sphagnum moss
1 part shreaded sheet moss
1 part volcanic sand
1 part scoria
1 part hardwood charcoal
1 part giant sequoia charcoal
1 part pumice
1 part compost
1 part vermiculite
1 part perlite
1 part rough peat
1 part fine peat
1 part Irish peat
1 part German peat
1 part sedge peat from Russia
1 part ''special peat'' from the Czech Republic
1 part special ''magic'' volcanic sand from South Georgia Island (near Antarctica)
1 part organic Araucaria leaf mould soil from the East side of the mountains in Central Chile.
1 part black volcanic gravel from Mt Versuvius
1 part red volcanic gravel from Mt Versuvius (sub stratum)
1 part special, secret, root growth exploding ingredient.
1 part trace element mix with all elements currently know to human kind including gold, silver and platinum.
1 part diamond dust.

After blending, the mixture is blessed by an assortment of ethnic forest priests and bagged into special bags made of blonde virgin's hair.

It's definitely the best mix you can get. Anything else is a compromise.
This special mix cannot be replicated or out-done. Don't even waste your time.
I will be selling it for $599.99 per 15kg bag if anyone's interested. (and you should be!)
Special price of $1199.97 for 30 kg bags.
(ingredients listed may vary without notice - no correspondence entered into)


News flash!!!!!! NOW WITH ADDED ''GROWMIUM'' For that little extra growth stimulation.
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treeman wrote: May 12th, 2020, 7:45 pm After you've tried Shibui's amateurish mix, you can try the best.

I'm currently selling this stuff.....
1 part sand
1 part bark nuggets
1 part shredded bark
1 part soft akadama
1 part hard akadama
1 part medium akadama
1 part kanuma
1 part Chinese hill soil
1 part Chinese mountain soil
1 part shreaded sphagnum moss
1 part shreaded sheet moss
1 part volcanic sand
1 part scoria
1 part hardwood charcoal
1 part giant sequoia charcoal
1 part pumice
1 part compost
1 part vermiculite
1 part perlite
1 part rough peat
1 part fine peat
1 part Irish peat
1 part German peat
1 part sedge peat from Russia
1 part ''special peat'' from the Czech Republic
1 part special ''magic'' volcanic sand from South Georgia Island (near Antarctica)
1 part organic Araucaria leaf mould soil from the East side of the mountains in Central Chile.
1 part black volcanic gravel from Mt Versuvius
1 part red volcanic gravel from Mt Versuvius (sub stratum)
1 part special, secret, root growth exploding ingredient.
1 part trace element mix with all elements currently know to human kind including gold, silver and platinum.
1 part diamond dust.

After blending, the mixture is blessed by an assortment of ethnic forest priests and bagged into special bags made of blonde virgin's hair.

It's definitely the best mix you can get. Anything else is a compromise.
This special mix cannot be replicated or out-done. Don't even waste your time.
I will be selling it for $599.99 per 15kg bag if anyone's interested. (and you should be!)
Special price of $1199.97 for 30 kg bags.
(ingredients listed may vary without notice - no correspondence entered into)


News flash!!!!!! NOW WITH ADDED ''GROWMIUM'' For that little extra growth stimulation.
How much to get 11 bags to Sydney
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Re: Soil Mix

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For you?.....Special discount price!
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If you can get it cheap it’s a bargain
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For you?.....Special discount price! I can round it off to $18,000
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Could I get you to express post. I’ll pay the extra.
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Post by Keep Calm and Ramify »

can I just buy a 30kg bag of the blonde virgins hair? (...Asking for a friend)
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We are talking rupiah. Right?
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Keep Calm and Ramify wrote: May 12th, 2020, 8:11 pm can I just buy a 30kg bag of the blonde virgins hair? (...Asking for a friend)
Can you get ingredients individually. I was going to throw the rest in the bin.
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Fortunately, I have bags and bags of Araucaria leaf mould soil from the East side of the mountains in Central Chile.

In an amazing stroke of good fortune, I purchased them on special at the same time that I was collecting Pallet loads of toilet paper. Fortunately, shredded toilet paper has the same properties as shredded sheet moss or indeed, compost - depending on when you decide the add the toilet paper to your mix.

Regardless - I am fine for Araucaria leaf mould and will part with some at the right price.
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Hey Kate,

On a slightly more serious note ... next to my leaf mould response above.... I also have a cheap soil moisture meter on my shelf.

Why on earth am I telling you that? Well .... I reckon as we are starting out - any free-draining potting mix can work. Or any bags from your local bonsai club or bonsai nursery. If you're anything like me when I started out - you'll end up with multiple mixes and even if you have the one mix.... if it's free draining it can dry out quickly but then different trees grow at different rates ... add in wind, rain, sun... who knows when a plant needs a water or not!? These are a neat little insurance device as we learn to understand out own collection and how quickly they suck water from pots. Something as cheap as this can guide you http://www.google.com.au/shopping/produ ... lsrc:aw.ds

I am pretty sure some of the more experience folk here might scoff at my suggestion here but truthfully - I find it helpful and it might give you peace of mind as you trial different soil mixes.
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Post by kcpoole »

if you want to try inorganic mixes. I can suppy 14 L bags of Kens Mix.
Not as many ingredients as Treeman's but I have been using it for long times now and much cheaper than his :-) :lol:

Delivery to you there is $45 for 2 bags in a box + the mix so not that cheap but works fro me :-)
otherwise grab some good quality bonsai mix from the local big store or any free draining mix available there.

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squizzy wrote: May 12th, 2020, 8:13 pm
Keep Calm and Ramify wrote: May 12th, 2020, 8:11 pm can I just buy a 30kg bag of the blonde virgins hair? (...Asking for a friend)
Can you get ingredients individually. I was going to throw the rest in the bin.
I can supply most indivuidually excepet the Chines soil as that has too much corona :beer: in it to be imported at the moments and the Diamond dust is a little scarce as they are bitch sand down

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