Demo by David Benavente

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Re: Demo by David Benavente

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treeman wrote: March 15th, 2021, 3:08 pm
tgward wrote: March 15th, 2021, 3:05 pm

perhaps a few examples of your own work
Why?
hey Mike,

Another interesting thread. I agree, we don't need to produce the trees that we aspire towards to still hold them as a goal or ideal form.

On a tangent, given that people have different tastes and views of the world etc, i'd be interested to hear your and other's ideas on the reasons and or motivations behind why they are attracted to one 'style/method/approach' over another. Someone mentioned that a japanese artists Graphic design background might influence the bonsai he created id be keen to hear why people think they might be attracted to cookie cutter, naturalistic or some other form of bonsai.

Our personal aesthetics and likes etc are all a product of previous experience, surrounding culture and exposure. It would be interesting to unpick some of this as i am sure it is not universal, nor should it be.

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Re: Demo by David Benavente

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treeman wrote: March 15th, 2021, 3:05 pm Conciety? :lol:
Oh gawd, you need English lessons too? :shock:
Collins Dictionary: conceity, in British English, ADJECTIVE, full of conceit.
Quite fitting.
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Re: Demo by David Benavente

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wrcmad wrote: March 15th, 2021, 4:35 pm Oh gawd, you need English lessons too? :shock:
Collins Dictionary: conceity, in British English, ADJECTIVE, full of conceit.
Quite fitting.
Can we leave out the pissing contest please? I'm genuinely interested in the discussion being had in between all the insults.
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Re: Demo by David Benavente

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wrcmad wrote: March 15th, 2021, 4:35 pm
treeman wrote: March 15th, 2021, 3:05 pm Conciety? :lol:
Oh gawd, you need English lessons too? :shock:
Collins Dictionary: conceity, in British English, ADJECTIVE, full of conceit.
Quite fitting.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yes I know what it means luv. I was laughing at your choice of words. Oops! :lol:
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Re: Demo by David Benavente

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greg27 wrote: March 15th, 2021, 4:40 pm
wrcmad wrote: March 15th, 2021, 4:35 pm Oh gawd, you need English lessons too? :shock:
Collins Dictionary: conceity, in British English, ADJECTIVE, full of conceit.
Quite fitting.
Can we leave out the pissing contest please? I'm genuinely interested in the discussion being had in between all the insults.
I live inside my trolls head. He even follows me to other forums the poor dear.
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Re: Demo by David Benavente

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treeman wrote: March 15th, 2021, 3:08 pm
tgward wrote: March 15th, 2021, 3:05 pm

perhaps a few examples of your own work
Why?
I am genuinely interested to see your innovations
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Re: Demo by David Benavente

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tgward wrote: March 15th, 2021, 10:14 pm
treeman wrote: March 15th, 2021, 3:08 pm
tgward wrote: March 15th, 2021, 3:05 pm

perhaps a few examples of your own work
Why?
I am genuinely interested to see your innovations
I don't have innovations. I don't even know if there is such a thing, but I'm trying to go my own way as much as possible (that's when I could be bothered enough. I've been pretty bored with bonsai lately)
I have a couple of small pines I look at from time to time and I have made some sketches to help me with what I would eventually like to see in them.

This one which I think I might have sold or killed but I haven't seen for a while..
1.JPG


This one I still have and it's kind of doing this...
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And this one, which I also still have and it's on the way but needs to be mistreated for a while (10 years?) to get that sparse look.
P1140399.JPG
Something I have noticed is that with small pines, the needles have to be as small as possible to get the branch detail you want. Natives will be good!.. but only a pine can be a pine. The other thing is that no matter how much you plan for something, the tree will decide what it will ultimately be.
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Re: Demo by David Benavente

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Jow wrote: March 15th, 2021, 3:45 pm
treeman wrote: March 15th, 2021, 3:08 pm
tgward wrote: March 15th, 2021, 3:05 pm

perhaps a few examples of your own work
Why?
hey Mike,

Another interesting thread. I agree, we don't need to produce the trees that we aspire towards to still hold them as a goal or ideal form.

On a tangent, given that people have different tastes and views of the world etc, i'd be interested to hear your and other's ideas on the reasons and or motivations behind why they are attracted to one 'style/method/approach' over another. Someone mentioned that a japanese artists Graphic design background might influence the bonsai he created id be keen to hear why people think they might be attracted to cookie cutter, naturalistic or some other form of bonsai.

Our personal aesthetics and likes etc are all a product of previous experience, surrounding culture and exposure. It would be interesting to unpick some of this as i am sure it is not universal, nor should it be.

J
Hi Jow
Good to hear from you.
I did reply but it disappeared!
I was going to say that the internet seems to have been a great ''equalizer'' when it comes to bonsai styling.(and everything else) Because all the demonstrators are the same, so are their followers.
My daughter listens to Fox (I think). I used to be a musician and I think I have a pretty good ear but I can't tell one song from the next coming out of that radio. Monkey see...
The only way I can see things changing as far as demos are concerned is that the demonstrator will need to make a drawing of his vision and then proceed to show how he intends to achieve it?
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