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Roots over Buddha - how?

Posted: March 28th, 2021, 7:36 am
by Per PF
I have this unstyled Ficus Benjamina:
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And this Buddha figure:
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Size comparison with hand:
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And I thought it would be pretty cool to have the Buddha sitting under the tree with some roots growing over him. The lotus base he's sitting on would be at least partly buried under the soil surface.

How would you go about this? Sphagnum around him? Bury him and gradually remove it?
(The pot size is fixed so I'm going to need to root prune to make room.)

Re: Roots over Buddha - how?

Posted: March 28th, 2021, 9:09 am
by KIRKY
Sphagnum moss would be the easiest. Just put the statue where you want it then cover both tree and statue with the moss. Keep damp to raise humidity and you will get aerial roots.
Cheers
Kirky

Re: Roots over Buddha - how?

Posted: March 28th, 2021, 2:58 pm
by shibui
Ficus are tough. Many can grow without even having roots in the soil and you can take advantage of that by bare rooting the tree then place roots over the statue (or rock). I then wrap the whole thing in aluminium foil which is great because it will mold to all the crevices and hold roots tight against all the surfaces. Bury the whole thing so the top of the foil is just sticking above the soil. Pressure of soil outside the foil helps hold roots closer to the surface.
With ficus it is not even necessary to have roots sticking out the bottom. The existing roots will keep growing down between statue and foil until they eventually emerge into soil below. Just need to have the top open so water can run down to keep the roots alive while they grow.
Sphagnum could be used with ficus if you like. Sometimes it holds just too much water and the roots can rot but should be OK for ficus because they are tough. Don't put too much sphagnum or soil. Roots need to be as close to the surface as possible and added stuff tends to push some roots away.

After a year you can dig it up and unwrap to check progress. Rearrange roots if required. Rewrap and bury again if the roots still need to grow more but when you are happy with progress just plant the whole thing at the right level. No need for progressive uncover of roots, they can adjust provided the tips are still in the soil to provide food and water for the tree.
I have a few ror ficus developing this year.

Re: Roots over Buddha - how?

Posted: March 29th, 2021, 2:29 am
by Per PF
Thanks again guys I really appreciate your answers. That's a great tip about aluminium foil. I'll consider these options and keep you posted when I get the time to dig in.

Re: Roots over Buddha - how?

Posted: March 29th, 2021, 9:37 am
by legoman_iac
One thing mentioned to me recently, was to take a few branches, stick them in the soil, let them grow new roots, then take them out and add ontop, so the roots run down the statue. I haven't tried it yet, but sounds like a great way to quickly add roots/interest?

Re: Roots over Buddha - how?

Posted: April 2nd, 2021, 1:39 pm
by Matt S
Hi Per,

I did something similar a few years ago with a strangler fig, although in this case I just planted a cutting on the shoulder, wrapped in foil and waited. Shibui’s method is spot on and you should get a good result in a few years. I also have a Chinese elm on a Buddha which I’ll take a picture of if I get a chance soon.

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Matt.

Re: Roots over Buddha - how?

Posted: April 6th, 2021, 1:23 am
by Per PF
Nice tree Matt!

Re: Roots over Buddha - how?

Posted: April 6th, 2021, 1:35 am
by Per PF
Today was the day! Thanks again for all the answers and suggestions.
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The roots had gotten away on this one with some bulbous action.
I pruned away the largest bulbous parts and snaked some of the remaining around and under the arm of the statue.
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(Took some root cuttings..)
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Added the aluminium foil (more diligently than in this photo).
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And here's how the poor bastard ended up 8-) (I also changed to a finer pumice size)
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I'll let time do its thing... :fc:

Re: Roots over Buddha - how?

Posted: April 6th, 2021, 7:40 am
by shibui
Nice roots. They should grow really well on the little statue.
You did well taking off the bulbous roots. They would have caused real problems getting the roots close enough to the surface of your statue. So many people are too frightened to cut roots. Even if F. benjamina has a reputation for not liking root work it will still cope with losing just a few any time it is repotted.
Ficus are a species that does not seem to grow new surface roots easily so your planting should be OK as is. Trident maple do grow new roots easily and I have learned the hard way to make sure the foil is showing all round above the soil. If there is any spot where roots can escape over the top a trident will do so and those surface roots grow so much faster than the ones wrapped on the rock. Always make sure the foil is above the surface when using this ROR technique.

Update: Roots over Buddha

Posted: November 1st, 2021, 4:48 am
by Per PF
Lots of roots underneath + tension on the bottom part of the pot mad me go for a repot.
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The roots DID escape over the top and made a circling thing near the surface... I had not wrapped the foil nearly hard enough + there were still roots on the back side so they grew unhindered.. :palm:
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Some nice swelling of the base!
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I considered cutting the root over his shoulder sticking out to the front but I'm sort of curious how it will develop from here.
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It did not turn out as I planned but I'm still pretty happy with the results so far. I actually like the fat root mess behind the statue, I think it has sort of a Banyan-vibe to it.
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I only removed these roots so it shouldn't skip a beat.

A big advantage with pumice is that I could reuse the same substrate again!

Re: Roots over Buddha - how?

Posted: November 1st, 2021, 4:33 pm
by Matt S
That's a good outcome! At this stage you can also wrap the roots/statue with grafting tape (or similar) to get the roots to hug the statue.

Matt.