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[Paulneill]

I dug up 4 trees from a row of hedges out the front of a house a couple of days ago. At 1st glance I was telling myself it was a large leaf Lilly pilly because of the red new leaves. but after driving down the street I spotted a large shrub that looks very similar and it’s a gum tree with gum nuts.

Sorry the photo is all I’ve got atm. I will post more. Soon


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[Paulneill]

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[Paulneill]

The joys of being single, no mrs to winge about this type of behaviour


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[shibui]

Nothing jumping right out at me with those photos so far. It doesn't look like any Euc I know.
I'll wait for some better photos of leaf, branches and bark and see if anything comes to mind.

[Paulneill]

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[Paulneill]

I potted them up in orchid bark it seems to stay very wet. I also decided to double bag them to try and retain humidity. I’m just gona keep them inside for 10 days out of the wind here in Perth. There is another 10 left in the garden is anyone is in Perth. I’m hoping they do well because 2 of them look great and wouldn’t take long to develop into something. I’m starting to think they are gums

[Paulneill]

What do u reckon shibui any ideas.

What do u guys think about what I’m doing with the black bags, goo idea or not?

[Kevin]

Hello Paul,

My is Tristaniopsis laurina or Watergum. The leaves look right but I'm not so sure with the bark.

My on the bags is: I would use clear plastic so the plant can still photosynthesis, thus help in root recovery / regrowth.

Kevin

[dansai]

Looks like a Lilli Pilly to me. Definitely not a Eucalyptus as they have alternate leaves. How big are the leaves? There are many cultivars of the Lilly Pilly with varying growth habits, leaf size and bark characteristics.

As for the black bags, I know Tony Tickle uses them for deciduous material collected in the UK. Very different conditions. Ive dug (more ripped) a couple of dwarf Lilly Pilly's a number of years ago and they were fine without plastic bags. Straight out in the sun. They were very slow to grow good roots though. I have better potting mix and cultural conditions now including a shad house with misting so wouldn't go plastic myself. Maybe try a couple in, and a couple out and report back with the results.

[shibui]

I'd rule out Eucs because those leaves are all opposite. Eucs have alternate leaf placement, except maybe juvenile foliage is sometimes opposite and Eucs would rarely be used as hedge plants.
Pretty sure that Tristanopsis and Lophostemon both have alternate leaf placement too and probably not used as hedging much either.
Photinia are used as hedging and have red new tips but, again, the leaves would be opposite.
Lilly Pilly have been widely promoted as hedging plants. They all have similar leaf shape and opposite leaf placement. Acmena smithii also has red new leaves. The bark somehow doesn't look right, though I'm not all that familiar with older bark of all the different species and varieties.

Search online for hedge plants Perth and see what comes up as recommended they search those plants and check closely for the leaf arrangement and shape.

[Paulneill]

What a great idea google hedge plants Perth and what do u know was second on the list. Photinia (red robin)
Not much info on them for bonsai but I think they have great potential.
I took that advice as well and removed the black bags and chucked a big clear plastic sheet over them all. I’m leaving them for a week. Thanks everyone for replying.





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[dansai]

Only problem is, Photinia leaves are alternate. (I'm pretty sure that's what shibui meant to say in his post) Your photo shows opposite leaves.

[Paulneill]

Oh right, thanks mate I didn’t pick up on that.
It can’t be Photinia then. I guess I’m back to my original thought that it’s Lilly pilly. But I’m not convinced. Time will tell if they survive and produce fruit or flowers.

[dansai]

Could also be Metrosioderos collina "Little Dugold". Saw one in a nursery the other day and I remembered you said the plants had gum nut like fruit on them. It rules out Lilly Pilly, but these had flowers and some young fruit. Below is a picture I took of the plant, and here is a link to a page on them with a good pic of the foliage.

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