[SOLVED] Aus Native ID please

Forum for requesting identification of unknown species. Please read the Sticky on requirements prior to posting.
John Henry
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 487
Joined: December 2nd, 2008, 3:19 pm
Favorite Species: pines
Bonsai Age: 20
Bonsai Club: BSV Nth West Vic Native Bendigo
Location: Melbourne VIC
Been thanked: 1 time
Contact:

[SOLVED] Aus Native ID please

Post by John Henry »

Hi All, Could anyone ID this tree,i think it is a Callitris ? t(he only native i have) if so does it bud back on old wood if cut back hard.Thanks John M

Identification solved

By Anttal

hakea spp.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Last edited by Jamie on May 27th, 2010, 10:30 am, edited 2 times in total.
Reason: ID solved
User avatar
Jamie
Bonsai passionardo
Bonsai passionardo
Posts: 6829
Joined: August 21st, 2009, 8:08 pm
Favorite Species: CLERO!!!,ficus, celtis, juniper, elms
Bonsai Age: 9
Bonsai Club: AUSBONSAI.COM
Location: queensland, Hervey Bay
Been thanked: 1 time
Contact:

Re: Aus Native ID please

Post by Jamie »

i reckon your right about it being callitris mate, i dont think it is easy to get them to back bud on old wood. i think you need to do it slowly over a long time, not just one big chop and it will back bud like figs or melaleucas.

jamie :D
SHOHIN YAKUZA!!!
:twisted: taking the top half of trees of since 2005! :twisted:
and growing trees for the future generations! 50+ year plans :D
User avatar
Pup
Knowledgeable rogue
Knowledgeable rogue
Posts: 6357
Joined: November 12th, 2008, 5:19 pm
Favorite Species: melaleucas
Bonsai Age: 31
Bonsai Club: Bonsai society of Western Australia
Location: Southern Suburbs of Perth Western Australia
Been thanked: 35 times
Contact:

Re: Aus Native ID please

Post by Pup »

G,day John there are a few of them they are our own true conifer. I do have one so does Grant Bowie and Peter Hanrahan ( please excuse) if I have not spelt that right Peter.

I find that it is slowly slowly with mine as it is loath to put out new growth on old wood, I find pinching mine like a Shimpaku is best.
While I believe Grant cuts his back with scissors.

Cheers :) Pup
IN THE LIGHT OF KNOWLEDGE ATTAINED, ACHIEVEMENT IS WITHIN SIGHT

I am not a complete fool, some parts are missing
User avatar
Mitchell
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 1807
Joined: February 15th, 2010, 4:34 pm
Favorite Species: Ficus
Bonsai Age: 1
Bonsai Club: [color=#FFFF00]Aus[/color][color=#40FF40]Bonsai[/color]
Location: Sydney,Beecroft

Re: Aus Native ID please

Post by Mitchell »

Wow!! That must've been hell, having such a magnificant example yet not knowing the name until now. Congrates on the ID, that deserves a beer..... Bit early in the morning for that though. :D
Regards, Mitchell.



"It is one thing to shape a tree into form, but when you are able to convincingly deceive ones perception of reality, something much more is accomplished than just a simple bonsai."

"In a perfect world, we would all be giants and all plants Bonsai."

"Grow big, finish small."


Image Join Ausbonsai today Click Here! Image
User avatar
Jamie
Bonsai passionardo
Bonsai passionardo
Posts: 6829
Joined: August 21st, 2009, 8:08 pm
Favorite Species: CLERO!!!,ficus, celtis, juniper, elms
Bonsai Age: 9
Bonsai Club: AUSBONSAI.COM
Location: queensland, Hervey Bay
Been thanked: 1 time
Contact:

Re: Aus Native ID please

Post by Jamie »

correct me if i am wrong pup but these are excruciatingly slow to grow and thicken to arent they?
SHOHIN YAKUZA!!!
:twisted: taking the top half of trees of since 2005! :twisted:
and growing trees for the future generations! 50+ year plans :D
User avatar
Pup
Knowledgeable rogue
Knowledgeable rogue
Posts: 6357
Joined: November 12th, 2008, 5:19 pm
Favorite Species: melaleucas
Bonsai Age: 31
Bonsai Club: Bonsai society of Western Australia
Location: Southern Suburbs of Perth Western Australia
Been thanked: 35 times
Contact:

Re: Aus Native ID please

Post by Pup »

Creeping Dragon wrote:Wow!! That must've been hell, having such a magnificant example yet not knowing the name until now. Congrates on the ID, that deserves a beer..... Bit early in the morning for that though. :D
Still evening here Chivers :oops: I mean cheers Pup
IN THE LIGHT OF KNOWLEDGE ATTAINED, ACHIEVEMENT IS WITHIN SIGHT

I am not a complete fool, some parts are missing
User avatar
Mitchell
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 1807
Joined: February 15th, 2010, 4:34 pm
Favorite Species: Ficus
Bonsai Age: 1
Bonsai Club: [color=#FFFF00]Aus[/color][color=#40FF40]Bonsai[/color]
Location: Sydney,Beecroft

Re: Aus Native ID please

Post by Mitchell »

Pup wrote:
Creeping Dragon wrote:Wow!! That must've been hell, having such a magnificant example yet not knowing the name until now. Congrates on the ID, that deserves a beer..... Bit early in the morning for that though. :D
Still evening here Chivers :oops: I mean cheers Pup


In that case... CHEERS!! :D :D :D
Regards, Mitchell.



"It is one thing to shape a tree into form, but when you are able to convincingly deceive ones perception of reality, something much more is accomplished than just a simple bonsai."

"In a perfect world, we would all be giants and all plants Bonsai."

"Grow big, finish small."


Image Join Ausbonsai today Click Here! Image
User avatar
Pup
Knowledgeable rogue
Knowledgeable rogue
Posts: 6357
Joined: November 12th, 2008, 5:19 pm
Favorite Species: melaleucas
Bonsai Age: 31
Bonsai Club: Bonsai society of Western Australia
Location: Southern Suburbs of Perth Western Australia
Been thanked: 35 times
Contact:

Re: Aus Native ID please

Post by Pup »

Jamie wrote:correct me if i am wrong pup but these are excruciatingly slow to grow and thicken to arent they?
Depends, like all on which one and where, any thing in a pot even a grow box is slow compared to the open ground.

The ones around where my Son and his Daughters live in Rockingham are over 100 and still only maybe 10 metres but they are close to the ocean.

some on Rottnest Island are actually prostrate as is mine or should I say semi cascade. 15 plus years still only 4cm trunk always in a pot.

Cheers :) Pup
IN THE LIGHT OF KNOWLEDGE ATTAINED, ACHIEVEMENT IS WITHIN SIGHT

I am not a complete fool, some parts are missing
User avatar
Jamie
Bonsai passionardo
Bonsai passionardo
Posts: 6829
Joined: August 21st, 2009, 8:08 pm
Favorite Species: CLERO!!!,ficus, celtis, juniper, elms
Bonsai Age: 9
Bonsai Club: AUSBONSAI.COM
Location: queensland, Hervey Bay
Been thanked: 1 time
Contact:

Re: Aus Native ID please

Post by Jamie »

cheers pup :D

for 15 years and a 4 cm trunk being in a pot the whole time isnt bad really, considering when in pot culture there development slows right down.

so do you treat these like a native with feeding and like a juniper or pine with pruning and styling? i presume the answer is a yes but i am just curious as i have a few in the yard that have self sown and was thinking bout pulling them up.


jamie :D
SHOHIN YAKUZA!!!
:twisted: taking the top half of trees of since 2005! :twisted:
and growing trees for the future generations! 50+ year plans :D
User avatar
Pup
Knowledgeable rogue
Knowledgeable rogue
Posts: 6357
Joined: November 12th, 2008, 5:19 pm
Favorite Species: melaleucas
Bonsai Age: 31
Bonsai Club: Bonsai society of Western Australia
Location: Southern Suburbs of Perth Western Australia
Been thanked: 35 times
Contact:

Re: Aus Native ID please

Post by Pup »

Jamie wrote:cheers pup :D

for 15 years and a 4 cm trunk being in a pot the whole time isnt bad really, considering when in pot culture there development slows right down.

so do you treat these like a native with feeding and like a juniper or pine with pruning and styling? i presume the answer is a yes but i am just curious as i have a few in the yard that have self sown and was thinking bout pulling them up.


jamie :D
It is a native conifer I pinch it like a Shimpaku. All other cultivation is as a Native.

Cheers :) Pup
IN THE LIGHT OF KNOWLEDGE ATTAINED, ACHIEVEMENT IS WITHIN SIGHT

I am not a complete fool, some parts are missing
User avatar
Jamie
Bonsai passionardo
Bonsai passionardo
Posts: 6829
Joined: August 21st, 2009, 8:08 pm
Favorite Species: CLERO!!!,ficus, celtis, juniper, elms
Bonsai Age: 9
Bonsai Club: AUSBONSAI.COM
Location: queensland, Hervey Bay
Been thanked: 1 time
Contact:

Re: Aus Native ID please

Post by Jamie »

thank you mr. pup :D
SHOHIN YAKUZA!!!
:twisted: taking the top half of trees of since 2005! :twisted:
and growing trees for the future generations! 50+ year plans :D
User avatar
anttal63
Bend me twist me
Bend me twist me
Posts: 5325
Joined: November 11th, 2008, 12:32 pm
Bonsai Age: 14
Bonsai Club: MYCLUB
Been thanked: 1 time

Re: Aus Native ID please

Post by anttal63 »

Hello john boy, you have beat me to it. I am growing these from seed, 3yrs in now. Up until now i had not seen this as bonsai and have been very excited at the prospects. The fact that the compound leaf can be reduced so easily and then looks like needles is a real winner. Well done done i look forward to it in future, be watching out for ours. Gabriel and i are doing some good things with them. At some point i want to collect a large one, to work with. Until then i'm sorry at this point i cant answer your question of back budding on old wood. :D 8-)


This is a Hakea...Needle Wood. ;)
Regards Antonio:
User avatar
FlyBri
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 1042
Joined: November 12th, 2008, 1:11 pm
Favorite Species: Eucalyptus camaldulensis
Bonsai Age: 14
Bonsai Club: AusBonsai.com
Location: Hurstbridge VIC
Been thanked: 4 times
Contact:

Re: Aus Native ID please

Post by FlyBri »

Gday John & Co!

I can't give a positive ID, but I can tell you that it's not Callitris. I think Antonio is pretty close with his call of Hakea (check this link), but the pinnate foliage could also indicate Grevillea.

Nice tree, by the way!

Good luck.

Fly.
User avatar
anttal63
Bend me twist me
Bend me twist me
Posts: 5325
Joined: November 11th, 2008, 12:32 pm
Bonsai Age: 14
Bonsai Club: MYCLUB
Been thanked: 1 time

Re: Aus Native ID please

Post by anttal63 »

Hey Fly, i grow both; 99% sure this is Hakea. ;)
Regards Antonio:
John Henry
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Aussie Bonsai Fan
Posts: 487
Joined: December 2nd, 2008, 3:19 pm
Favorite Species: pines
Bonsai Age: 20
Bonsai Club: BSV Nth West Vic Native Bendigo
Location: Melbourne VIC
Been thanked: 1 time
Contact:

Re: Aus Native ID please

Post by John Henry »

Hi All, Thanks you all for your input. Anttal you are the 2nd person to go with Hakea, Brian Sampson was down here last week and the first thing he said was nice Heaka as iam not up with native trees i will bring it along to the next meeting the tree is very old and has been totaly neglected.Thanks john
Locked

Return to “Species Identification”