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Acmena Smithii

Posted: August 16th, 2016, 6:30 pm
by chriswaghorn
Just after your thoughts on this one. Picked this up a few weeks ago and I'm thinking I should cut it back then just let it grow out. Wondering how far you would cut it back?
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Re: Acmena Smithii

Posted: August 16th, 2016, 7:33 pm
by EdwardH
Hi Chris, I would not cut it as yet because if you do the trunk will not increase in size until the new leader grows to the same size as as the trunk. If it were mine I would give the roots a good trim (as it looks root bound), feed well and then let it grow until you are happy with the trunk diameter. Then cut to a low branch and feed, allow to grow again and keep repeating the sequence until you are pleased with the trunk thickness, taper and height of your tree.

Re: Acmena Smithii

Posted: August 16th, 2016, 9:28 pm
by Boics
What are your expectations for the "grow out"? What are you trying to achieve?? My Lilly pilly have had no problem back budding which should help with options however mine is a dwarf variety I think.
Id be looking at one of the bottom two branches as my leader if your happy with trunk thickness currently..
I've noticed my Lilly pilly heals cuts reasonably well too.

Re: Acmena Smithii

Posted: August 16th, 2016, 9:39 pm
by chriswaghorn
I don't have much of an idea for style, but if I cut it back to a new leader I'd wait for that to thicken up and start to look like a continuation of the trunk. But I think I need more options for lower branches, as most are on the top half of the trunk, so I'd hope for some good back budding and then growing of lower branches.

I guess I'm not sure of overall end height too. I think I tend to keep my trees a little tall (new to this all so having the courage to chop short if needed isn't a strength of mine yet)

Re: Acmena Smithii

Posted: August 16th, 2016, 10:54 pm
by kcpoole
chriswaghorn wrote: I think I tend to keep my trees a little tall (new to this all so having the courage to chop short if needed isn't a strength of mine yet)
then now is the time to learn :-)

Re style, Pick a style of tree you would like one day and then grow the trunk to suit. Short and thick, Tall and thinner, Slanting, Cascade, Whatever you want you can have with time
You are starting with a blank canvas so anything is possible.

Ken

Re: Acmena Smithii

Posted: August 17th, 2016, 12:51 pm
by dansai
I see the start of a good trunk from soil line to just above the first left branch in your first pic. Going with this I would trim back the top branches pretty hard and leave all the bottom branches. Keep the top growth in check until the bottom branches gain vigour and then let it all grow. Styling can come later when you have more foliage options.

Maybe wait to do a repot when the weather warms up and any new growth has hardened off for a while. One problem with root bound nursery material is you will probably have many circling roots and all originating from well below the soil line. Sometimes as you remove roots you will get back to roots that are in the form of the original pot or propagation plug, especially with cutting grown material which this probably is. Roots can often run straight up a short away from the trunk and there may even only be 2 or 3 of them. What I have done with some of this material is to only remove a small amount of root and plant then in a larger put higher than they were but still covering the roots with the idea to air or ground layer to get better roots. This way you can have a style in mid and angle the layer accordingly to get the roots at place you want them.