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Re: How to grow good bonsai stock like the Japanese nurseries

Posted: May 24th, 2009, 12:11 pm
by Gabriel
Thanks Jow for share whit us those amazing tips...and about the rubbish trees, well i would love to have one like that :D

Re: How to grow good bonsai stock like the Japanese nurseries

Posted: May 27th, 2009, 10:25 am
by Gabriel
Hi everyone after reading Jow`s post i couldn`t help myself i hade to try it and whit the help of my mate tony this is the result....
The plant is a shimpaku ....i would say no older than a year

Re: How to grow good bonsai stock like the Japanese nurseries

Posted: May 27th, 2009, 10:28 am
by Gabriel
Sorry 1 part missing.....After wiring....
As you can see from the picture the moviment start right from the bottom....
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Re: How to grow good bonsai stock like the Japanese nurseries

Posted: May 27th, 2009, 11:17 am
by ketutg
jow when is the best time to start with the sharis?

Re: How to grow good bonsai stock like the Japanese nurseries

Posted: May 27th, 2009, 1:15 pm
by Scott Roxburgh
Jow said
To start the shari you probably want your material to be around 1- 2cm thick. then start a very thin shari maybe a few mm wide. Lino cutting chisels ( available from art shops) are excellent for this fine work. creating a shari on both sides of the trunk like the top example will exaggerate the effect. You don't have to make the first shari a continuous strip at first, it may begin with a number of sharis that will later become joined. Then every year or two you widen the shari by a few mm or so. Soon the shari will begin to widen and will be a flat plate if dead wood with natural texture.
;)

Re: How to grow good bonsai stock like the Japanese nurseries

Posted: May 27th, 2009, 2:05 pm
by ketutg
I should've clarified in my earlier post that by when i meant season wise.

Re: How to grow good bonsai stock like the Japanese nurseries

Posted: May 27th, 2009, 2:34 pm
by Scott Roxburgh
my bad :oops:

Re: How to grow good bonsai stock like the Japanese nurseries

Posted: May 27th, 2009, 6:17 pm
by Jow
Winter... basically the same time as when you would be doing major work on pines. Mid winter is a pretty safe bet. Renember to start small shari wise and build on it every year. Too much drastic shari making can result in loss of branches or the tree itself.

Re: How to grow good bonsai stock like the Japanese nurseries

Posted: May 27th, 2009, 7:00 pm
by anttal63
lele thank god you finally posted now i can have a shave! :lol: :lol: :lol: go lele go lele go lele :D :D :D

Re: How to grow good bonsai stock like the Japanese nurseries

Posted: May 27th, 2009, 8:15 pm
by Bretts
I did a couple today but they are older material that I had laying around. Worked ok a few cracks ;)

Re: How to grow good bonsai stock like the Japanese nurseries

Posted: May 27th, 2009, 9:44 pm
by anttal63
soltan wrote:I did a couple today but they are older material that I had laying around. Worked ok a few cracks ;)
no worries ya just created natural shari. :D

Re: How to grow good bonsai stock like the Japanese nurseries

Posted: May 27th, 2009, 10:14 pm
by Jow
soltan wrote:I did a couple today but they are older material that I had laying around. Worked ok a few cracks ;)

If you are using older material you can do a second compression of the bends when the first wirsing has set. Simply compress the curves further via re wireing or guy wires..... That way you can get almost as tight bends as starting with young material.

Re: How to grow good bonsai stock like the Japanese nurseries

Posted: May 28th, 2009, 10:50 am
by ketutg
does this shari widening technique work on species other than pines/conifers?

Re: How to grow good bonsai stock like the Japanese nurseries

Posted: May 28th, 2009, 10:53 am
by John Henry
Hi All, this is a pic of a Radiata Pine that Jow helped me bend in July last year i slowly increased the bend over a few months the tree has not looked back thanks Jow .(when do you think we may see you back)
Regards John

Re: How to grow good bonsai stock like the Japanese nurseries

Posted: May 28th, 2009, 6:35 pm
by Jow
Well after the threat of being fired from my job it looks like the 1st of July.