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correct wire and where to buy it?

Post by jme » January 2nd, 2013, 6:55 pm

The only place I can find bonsai wire is bunnings or eBay. Is there a cheaper place
Also, what thickness wire do I use (1/3 branch thickness etc?) And why is it important to use bonsai wire and not just normal wire from bunnings?
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Re: correct wire and where to buy it?

Post by Jason » January 2nd, 2013, 6:58 pm

I'd have a read of this page mate (the Ausbonsai Wiki): https://www.ausbonsai.com.au/wiki/index. ... onsai_wire

Here is a snip from the page linked:
If you walk into a hardware store electrical center, they will have several spools of bright shiny copper wire, and you might be tempted to purchase and use it for your bonsai. You would find that it is very difficult to bend, because it hasn't been yet been annealed.

Aluminium wire, on the other hand, is not annealed. It is significantly softer than copper wire, and has less holding power, but it can be repositioned somewhat, so many beginners prefer to use it until they have developed some expertise at applying wire. Aluminium is also the preferred wire choice of many professionals for some thin-barked trees like azalea, where the raw holding power of copper isn't as important as the flexibility of aluminium.

Because aluminium is naturally a silver color, it is often treated by an electrochemical process called anodization to give it a brownish color similar to copper wire. It's easy to tell the difference because the core will still be silver, and the color, a metallic brown, is unobtrusive, but not really that similar to the appearance of annealed copper wire, which is a dark, dull red when applied and becomes darker with time.

You can buy and anneal your own copper wire, or purchase aluminium or copper wire that has been pre-annealed for bonsai work.



It answered most of my questions on wiring :)

I bought my first lot from Ebay, and I just got a variety of sizes from 1mm to 6mm so that I can find out which works best with what :)
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Re: correct wire and where to buy it?

Post by kcpoole » January 2nd, 2013, 7:08 pm

Any Bonsai Nursery will have it in Stock, or if none near you the local club members will be able to help.
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Re: correct wire and where to buy it?

Post by John Henry » January 2nd, 2013, 7:14 pm

HI JME the best place to get wire is from The Gardeners Friend (David Rojo)his web site is under The gardeners Friend he only stokes the best Japanese wire not the cheap crape.
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Re: correct wire and where to buy it?

Post by shibui » January 2nd, 2013, 7:32 pm

' normal' wire will usually be steel tie wire. The only reasons I can see for not using it is that it will rust and won't look very nice. It might stain the bark of the tree too.

The debate about whether copper or aluminium wire is better still rages but either will work and the choice is more personal taste and what you are used to.
Some growers use recycled wire salvaged from electricians, wreckers, etc. You need to remove the plastic insulation and unwind the individual strands. Recycled copper wire is usually very stiff and is best annealed before using on bonsai. Heat the wire to red then let it cool and it will be pliable and easy to use. All wires work harden when they are bent and should not be used after bending unless annealed to soften again.

Thickness depends on the bendability of the branch. Some wood is easy to bend, some much stiffer. with experience you can gauge by flexing the branch and flexing some different wires - the wire that is slightly stiffer than the branch will hold it in place.
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Re: correct wire and where to buy it?

Post by Olivecrazy » January 2nd, 2013, 10:40 pm

I get all my wire from a ebay store its great an much cheaper then i can get it here :tu: have got a few rolls now an haven't had any issues :yes:

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Re: correct wire and where to buy it?

Post by Phoenix238 » January 3rd, 2013, 5:12 am

I recently bought some from http://www.bonsaishop.com.au/shop/ , was quite happy with the wire though it took a while to get here

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Re: correct wire and where to buy it?

Post by anttal63 » January 3rd, 2013, 6:02 am

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Re: correct wire and where to buy it?

Post by Jason » February 12th, 2014, 7:23 pm

Heya,

I didn't want to create a new thread, so figure I'll ask my question here as it seems to be along the right lines.

I was wondering what the average price of Aluminium wire is?

I think I might have paid a bit much when I bought 500gm for $12.95 (with postage on top), but then... I wasn't sure as I've really got no idea what a 'good price' for wire is! :lol: Is that a good price?

If I got ripped off... then so be it... i'd just rather know so I don't make the mistake again :P
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Re: correct wire and where to buy it?

Post by bonsaisensation » February 12th, 2014, 8:36 pm

Jason wrote:Heya,

I was wondering what the average price of Aluminium wire is?

I think I might have paid a bit much when I bought 500gm for $12.95 (with postage on top), but then... I wasn't sure as I've really got no idea what a 'good price' for wire is! :lol: Is that a good price?

If I got ripped off... then so be it... i'd just rather know so I don't make the mistake again :P
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Re: correct wire and where to buy it?

Post by Jason » February 13th, 2014, 11:38 am

bonsaisensation wrote:
Jason wrote:Heya,

I was wondering what the average price of Aluminium wire is?

I think I might have paid a bit much when I bought 500gm for $12.95 (with postage on top), but then... I wasn't sure as I've really got no idea what a 'good price' for wire is! :lol: Is that a good price?

If I got ripped off... then so be it... i'd just rather know so I don't make the mistake again :P
hi Jason
what you paid for is very good price. 500gm of anodized aluminium wire at most bonsai nursery would be about $20. and i believe the seller is a wholesale importer. :tu: :tu:
Thankyou kindly mate! A lot of things online seem to be overpriced, which I usually find out after I've purchased it :P haha
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