No Fuss Propagator
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No Fuss Propagator
I've been using these home made no fuss propagators made by recycling plastic bottles for many years now with excellent results.
On the left is the basic unit, a bottle cut off at about two thirds of it's height,
invert the funnel shaped top third to become the new "pot",
cut holes in the lid to allow drainage and to wick up water (I use a hole punch,) and
you can add a wick if you like - I use venetian cord,
cover the holes in the lid with a single thickness of newspaper (to stop the mix from falling out).
Cut a hole in side of the lower 2/3 of the bottle, so the screw thread top of the inverted funnel/pot is below the water level(this insures that the water level in this "water well base" does not get too high)
Fill the lower 2/3 of the bottle, the water well, with water.
Fill the "pot" with potting mix to within a finger width of the top (I use seed raising mix).
As you can see from the image I also sometimes use a cut off bottle (lid removed) as a "humid house" for some cuttings or in the case of this image for some seeds. These are celery seed that I started for the vegie garden.
I've used this method for years with excellent results for both cuttings and seed sprouting. The water well base insures that the mix stays at just the right moisture level and it only needs checking occasionally, and with the hole in the side of the base it can't be accidently over watered - great for those cuttings that can take ages to strike.
Happy propagating,
Jan
On the left is the basic unit, a bottle cut off at about two thirds of it's height,
invert the funnel shaped top third to become the new "pot",
cut holes in the lid to allow drainage and to wick up water (I use a hole punch,) and
you can add a wick if you like - I use venetian cord,
cover the holes in the lid with a single thickness of newspaper (to stop the mix from falling out).
Cut a hole in side of the lower 2/3 of the bottle, so the screw thread top of the inverted funnel/pot is below the water level(this insures that the water level in this "water well base" does not get too high)
Fill the lower 2/3 of the bottle, the water well, with water.
Fill the "pot" with potting mix to within a finger width of the top (I use seed raising mix).
As you can see from the image I also sometimes use a cut off bottle (lid removed) as a "humid house" for some cuttings or in the case of this image for some seeds. These are celery seed that I started for the vegie garden.
I've used this method for years with excellent results for both cuttings and seed sprouting. The water well base insures that the mix stays at just the right moisture level and it only needs checking occasionally, and with the hole in the side of the base it can't be accidently over watered - great for those cuttings that can take ages to strike.
Happy propagating,
Jan
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Re: No Fuss Propagator
Thanks Jan.
I often forget to give good care to cuttings this could be very handy.
I am looking for a heat mat this year but came accross an idea of using the warmth from a tv or fridge to warm up the soil a little. I haven't figured out how to do this with a flat sceen tv
I often forget to give good care to cuttings this could be very handy.
I am looking for a heat mat this year but came accross an idea of using the warmth from a tv or fridge to warm up the soil a little. I haven't figured out how to do this with a flat sceen tv
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Re: No Fuss Propagator
Nifty idea! I use old terrariums that i have lying around. I have used a simpler/less effective version of a bottle propagator in the past.
Brett, I have used the lights from a fish tank/terrarium before to heat soil. Fluorescent tubes don't produce much heat and its perfect for many things, until they sprout and need light, then they need to be under it. I have heat mats for my python, but he uses them and i don't think he wants to share. They can be bought for about 25 dollars from a good pet store. The fridge is free (assuming you already have one) and allows more space than your flat screen But you cant be choosy about the location, and your fridge top probably doesn't receive much light.
JayC
Brett, I have used the lights from a fish tank/terrarium before to heat soil. Fluorescent tubes don't produce much heat and its perfect for many things, until they sprout and need light, then they need to be under it. I have heat mats for my python, but he uses them and i don't think he wants to share. They can be bought for about 25 dollars from a good pet store. The fridge is free (assuming you already have one) and allows more space than your flat screen But you cant be choosy about the location, and your fridge top probably doesn't receive much light.
JayC
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Re: No Fuss Propagator
Brett, I use white foam boxes (fruit & veg stores have some at times) to stand the propagators in, in the cooler months. This insulates them from the cool air rising in the evenings. You can even apply a "tent" cover made of builders plastic (cheap at hardware stores) to keep the temp more even. Cuttings strike all year for me, even when we get snow in winter!
Adding a large water filled bottle painted black (to absorb heat from the sun during the day like a camp shower) to the box with the propagators could help too, or simply invest in a heat pad from the pet shop as JayC suggests and put it in the box. (I can't do this - no power in the shade house)
Let us know how you get on with them,
Jan
Adding a large water filled bottle painted black (to absorb heat from the sun during the day like a camp shower) to the box with the propagators could help too, or simply invest in a heat pad from the pet shop as JayC suggests and put it in the box. (I can't do this - no power in the shade house)
Let us know how you get on with them,
Jan
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Re: No Fuss Propagator
Thanks for the suggestions. I have a couple of the foam vegy boxes. I was planning on planting stright in the foam box with glass over the top. I was thinking I could even use the foam lid during winter. My thoughts are if people put thier trees in the garage for over wintering(wich would have no light) then the cuttings won't need sunlight while not in leaf either?
I am trying to fit a heating pad into the budget
I am trying to fit a heating pad into the budget
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Re: No Fuss Propagator
that is brilliant jan thankyou so much for sharing this. in the spring this will help with the junipers project big time. and the birds cant digm up.
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Re: No Fuss Propagator
My cuttings often have leaves (reduced if they are large or numerous) so I like to allow them light.
I've been considering wraping a strip of black plastic (inexpensive & available from hardware shops) around the water well section of the propagator and securing with an elastic band to use sunlight to warm the air and water in the water well and hopefully the soil in the "pot" section. I'll try it this winter....more trial and error learning.
Should work well for your juniper cuttings - it did for me.
Let us know how you get on or if you have any improvements on the idea,
Jan
I've been considering wraping a strip of black plastic (inexpensive & available from hardware shops) around the water well section of the propagator and securing with an elastic band to use sunlight to warm the air and water in the water well and hopefully the soil in the "pot" section. I'll try it this winter....more trial and error learning.
Should work well for your juniper cuttings - it did for me.
Let us know how you get on or if you have any improvements on the idea,
Jan
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Re: No Fuss Propagator
hey Jan,
thats a great idea, Iv'e seen a commercial version of this propagator in certain shall we say hardware places for about $90.00. I ended up walking out humming "If I were a rich man".
Thanks,
Mac
thats a great idea, Iv'e seen a commercial version of this propagator in certain shall we say hardware places for about $90.00. I ended up walking out humming "If I were a rich man".
Thanks,
Mac
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Re: No Fuss Propagator
Here is a bit of an update on my propagator that I have setup.
Had to much around a bit with setup so will just wait and see how this goes for now but as I get better I should be able to get some good stuff going all year round.
At the moment I have Manchurian pear hardwood cuttings from 2mm upto about 50mm thick.
Not really a no fuss propagator but I thought I should update here
With the foam surround and a heat pad that I got of ebay I have been able to get the soil temp mostly around the 23 degree mark which is what is meant to be best. I have started to put the lid on at night and open it up during the day to let light in and moderate the heat.Had to much around a bit with setup so will just wait and see how this goes for now but as I get better I should be able to get some good stuff going all year round.
At the moment I have Manchurian pear hardwood cuttings from 2mm upto about 50mm thick.
Not really a no fuss propagator but I thought I should update here
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Nice set up there Brett!
That's some great self promotion written in the green paint in the first picture
S.
That's some great self promotion written in the green paint in the first picture
S.
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That was meant to be subliminal now you've stuffed it
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Re: No Fuss Propagator
I've also made propagators like this using large fruit juice and water bottles for "grand" cuttings. Most of my gaarden started this way. This might be of use with the swamp cypress cuttings in another recent post,
Jan
Jan
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Re: No Fuss Propagator
My Mint Bush cuttings have the cheek to flower.
With their good roots visable through the clear plastic I gues it is time I moved them on to larger pots
With their good roots visable through the clear plastic I gues it is time I moved them on to larger pots
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