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Re: 2021 Yamadori

Posted: June 19th, 2021, 1:13 pm
by SquatJar
The rounded leaves mean it's definitely not a common hawthorn, crataegus monogyna. I don't know of any less common hawthorn species that are naturalised in SA and have rounded leaves. I also don't know much about wild prunus in SA either but doesn't look like many common prunus leaves I've seen.
It might be African Boxthorn?

Re: 2021 Yamadori

Posted: June 19th, 2021, 1:14 pm
by nozila
any of them worthy bonsai material?


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Re: 2021 Yamadori

Posted: June 19th, 2021, 1:40 pm
by SquatJar
any of what?

Re: 2021 Yamadori

Posted: June 19th, 2021, 1:42 pm
by nozila
The thorn trees.


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Re: 2021 Yamadori

Posted: June 19th, 2021, 2:29 pm
by SquatJar
Hawthorn and Blackthorn make great bonsai but like I said, I don't think it's either of them, as for any other tree with thorns in existence, I'm sure many (quince, pomegranate etc) have desirable characteristics for bonsai, I would also hazzard a guess that many (most?) trees/shrubs with thorns don't. As we are no closer to a positive ID I can't really help any more than that. You've seen the tree, does it have any favourable characteristics? Small leaves, short internodes, interesting bark, spreading root base, movement/interest down low? etc etc

Re: 2021 Yamadori

Posted: June 19th, 2021, 2:44 pm
by tgward
noxious boxthorn

Re: 2021 Yamadori

Posted: June 19th, 2021, 2:56 pm
by nozila
Got these natives and some olives as well
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Re: 2021 Yamadori

Posted: June 19th, 2021, 5:58 pm
by nozila
Paperbark all cut back

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Re: 2021 Yamadori

Posted: June 19th, 2021, 8:50 pm
by KIRKY
The instant forest is a wild rose with rose hips. The one before that is the dreaded box thorn, they bite!
As for if they are worth depends on your taste, imagination and time n blood you want to put into them
Cheers
Kirky

Re: 2021 Yamadori

Posted: June 19th, 2021, 8:59 pm
by greg27
Those natives look good, but not a huge amount of roots and not a great time of year to dig 'em. Fingers crossed and keep us updated.

I'd leave the rose - looks pretty straight and boring - and would forget the boxthorn too unless it has some pretty interesting movement right down low. Aussie Bonsai Bloke has a couple of videos on boxthorn that he collected from his property if you're interested.

Re: 2021 Yamadori

Posted: June 19th, 2021, 9:10 pm
by nozila
Thanks guys. I might leave the other natives until spring/summer. There are so many.


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Re: 2021 Yamadori

Posted: June 19th, 2021, 9:16 pm
by nozila
KIRKY wrote:The instant forest is a wild rose with rose hips. The one before that is the dreaded box thorn, they bite!
As for if they are worth depends on your taste, imagination and time n blood you want to put into them
Cheers
Kirky
Bugger. Thanks for ID’ing them


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Re: 2021 Yamadori

Posted: June 26th, 2021, 11:47 am
by nozila
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Re: 2021 Yamadori

Posted: June 26th, 2021, 12:09 pm
by nozila
My chainsaw sucks at flat cutting so I just went for the big roots with it. 30 mins later. Image


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Re: 2021 Yamadori

Posted: June 26th, 2021, 3:08 pm
by nozila
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