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I will bear with you, not bare. It would be just too horrible to contemplate. Many thanks for your management.

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Speak for yourself Gavin, I wouldn't mind getting bare with you Steven but maybe I will just wait for the site to be fixed & be happy with that :tu:

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thanks Steven, I thought the 'bare' part was pretty funny.
I don't have any tech. knowledge, and know from some tech. mates things can get quite difficult.
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So I had problems with this too the last few days and decided to have a look into it. This would be a big part of the problem...

Reverse IP Lookup Results—3,459 domains hosted on IP address 27.124.120.41

Meaning Ausbonsai is sharing its IP address and therefore its server with 3459 other websites. That is beyond belief... No sensible, ethical or even sane service provider would dream of doing that. (the only one famous for pulling that rubbish is godaddy and why I will NEVER host with them again... even they only got to the high hundreds).

To compare here is a revers IP lookup of my site for which hosting costs me less than $4 a month from one of the large commercial companies. Nothing special, just basic cheap hosting.

Reverse IP Lookup Results—207 domains hosted on IP address 174.132.171.251
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klaery wrote:So I had problems with this too the last few days and decided to have a look into it. This would be a big part of the problem...

Reverse IP Lookup Results—3,459 domains hosted on IP address 27.124.120.41

Meaning Ausbonsai is sharing its IP address and therefore its server with 3459 other websites. That is beyond belief... No sensible, ethical or even sane service provider would dream of doing that. (the only one famous for pulling that rubbish is godaddy and why I will NEVER host with them again... even they only got to the high hundreds).

To compare here is a revers IP lookup of my site for which hosting costs me less than $4 a month from one of the large commercial companies. Nothing special, just basic cheap hosting.

Reverse IP Lookup Results—207 domains hosted on IP address 174.132.171.251
Why not?
There may well be ( and probably is), an IP address that this is the Internet facing NIC (or multiples of), for a network load balancer or server cluster.
There are many large environments that have 10's of thousands of Websites as virtual hosts on the same farm. Just because the are quite a few sites on the same address is not necessarily a telling argument. Yes if the cluster or farm is misconfigured,it might cause issues, but they would more likely be a "Hard error" and Quickly found.

This can be borne out by the ping times to the site. As they never vary from 75ms ( for me), regardless whether the site is have delays or not, indicates to the me the underlying network is not stressed, and the routing path to the individual host is not affected by other traffic.

IMHO i suspect that the one (or more) of the following is the root cause, but not being able to have shell access to the host we can only speculate
1/ Lack of Ram. ( my first suspect)
2/ insufficient disk space ( unlikely)
3/ unsufficient CPU resources
4/ a SQL server configuration issue that is limiting database connections
5/ a PHP Configuration issue that is limiting access

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Thanks Ken for your explanation. I was obviously incorrect in my assumption that one ip meant one server. With my site that was the situation and as you mention it did menifest itself as a ping time issue.thanks for wising me up :tu:
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:shock: Does anyone else struggle with what Ken just said ? :palm: :lol: :lol:

On the bright side I have found the site to be much better today - no lag for me atm.

I am just grateful to Steven for funding the site with his own coin and understand that sometimes poo happens. Keep up the good work Boss :clap:
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Bougy Fan wrote::shock: Does anyone else struggle with what Ken just said ? :palm: :lol: :lol:

On the bright side I have found the site to be much better today - no lag for me atm.

I am just grateful to Steven for funding the site with his own coin and understand that sometimes poo happens. Keep up the good work Boss :clap:
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kcpoole wrote:IMHO i suspect that the one (or more) of the following is the root cause, but not being able to have shell access to the host we can only speculate
1/ Lack of Ram. ( my first suspect)
2/ insufficient disk space ( unlikely)
3/ unsufficient CPU resources
4/ a SQL server configuration issue that is limiting database connections
5/ a PHP Configuration issue that is limiting access

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Clearly we're dealing with a pro here! I've seen some "resource limit" errors, which makes me suspect #4 or 5 is at least Part of the problem. RAM could explain the overall slowness though. Been a few years since I've played with servers though. :whistle:
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lackhand wrote:
kcpoole wrote:IMHO i suspect that the one (or more) of the following is the root cause, but not being able to have shell access to the host we can only speculate
1/ Lack of Ram. ( my first suspect)
2/ insufficient disk space ( unlikely)
3/ unsufficient CPU resources
4/ a SQL server configuration issue that is limiting database connections
5/ a PHP Configuration issue that is limiting access

Ken
Clearly we're dealing with a pro here! I've seen some "resource limit" errors, which makes me suspect #4 or 5 is at least Part of the problem. RAM could explain the overall slowness though. Been a few years since I've played with servers though. :whistle:
:P
In my real job, I administer a network of about 75 servers ( windows), for 700 users, but also run quite a few linux boxes ( which AusBonsai runs on), so yep probably call me a pro :lol:

Hopefully Steven and the hoster can get it sorted. :fc:
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kcpoole wrote:
lackhand wrote:
kcpoole wrote:IMHO i suspect that the one (or more) of the following is the root cause, but not being able to have shell access to the host we can only speculate
1/ Lack of Ram. ( my first suspect)
2/ insufficient disk space ( unlikely)
3/ unsufficient CPU resources
4/ a SQL server configuration issue that is limiting database connections
5/ a PHP Configuration issue that is limiting access

Ken
Clearly we're dealing with a pro here! I've seen some "resource limit" errors, which makes me suspect #4 or 5 is at least Part of the problem. RAM could explain the overall slowness though. Been a few years since I've played with servers though. :whistle:
:P
In my real job, I administer a network of about 75 servers ( windows), for 700 users, but also run quite a few linux boxes ( which AusBonsai runs on), so yep probably call me a pro :lol:

Hopefully Steven and the hoster can get it sorted. :fc:
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Nice, Ken. In my old real job I did some light administration of Linux and UNIX servers plus a few Windows, but mostly I handled the databases. Lots of databases. I worked for a library software company, so you can imagine the size of those databases. :shock: I'm sure they'll get it sorted soon enough. Seems to be a little better the past few days.
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Ahh Gawd DBA's are a breed of their own :lol: :lol:
Yes have not been having as many dropouts the last few days too..

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Its pretty good, but is anyone having issues with images not loading? Sometimes they just don't load then you have to refresh to get them.
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Beano wrote:Its pretty good, but is anyone having issues with images not loading? Sometimes they just don't load then you have to refresh to get them.
Not today
Every now again it has been tho
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