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Radiata dig, What next post care
Posted: March 22nd, 2012, 1:53 pm
by Booga
Dug this today I went to take some pics for Ant of some that I knew of, but they were crap.
So I headed of into a plantation that I haven't been in and came across this beauty complete with a shari.
So what now to keep it alive, Should I take the top out to take the pressure of the roots. I did get a fair amount of roots but I am still worried
That it could might not pull through. Thanks in advance
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Re: Radiata dig, What next post care
Posted: March 22nd, 2012, 4:53 pm
by rawhide
Re: Radiata dig, What next post care
Posted: March 22nd, 2012, 4:55 pm
by rawhide
Oops sorry just seen that that post was for Ants responce

Re: Radiata dig, What next post care
Posted: March 22nd, 2012, 5:25 pm
by Andrew F
rawhide wrote:Oops sorry just seen that that post was for Ants responce

"That's a Paddlin'!"
Re: Radiata dig, What next post care
Posted: March 22nd, 2012, 5:28 pm
by Booga
rawhide wrote:Oops sorry just seen that that post was for Ants responce

Move 'em on, head 'em up,Head 'em up, move 'em out,Move 'em on, head 'em out..Gday Rawhide.
Thanks for the tips, I changed the heading because I wasn't getting any hits.
It is for all to comment on but its is for Ant pleasure also. Thanks again rawhide.
Ps Bon is a Legend and if I ever get to Fremantle His grave will be my first stop

Re: Radiata dig, What next post care
Posted: March 22nd, 2012, 5:32 pm
by Olivecrazy
Nice pine ive tried in the past but failed on every a temp

im thinking the ones ive had ago at have been to big

because i love there ruff bark. Would really like to get my hands on a collected pine one day no matter how far up the cliff i have to climb

Re: Radiata dig, What next post care
Posted: March 22nd, 2012, 5:43 pm
by Luke308
Olivecrazy wrote:Nice pine ive tried in the past but failed on every a temp

im thinking the ones ive had ago at have been to big

because i love there ruff bark. Would really like to get my hands on a collected pine one day no matter how far up the cliff i have to climb

Join a club, as the club I am a member of (sa bonsai society @ goodwood) has organised pine snd olive digs every year. There is no need to climb cliffs, that is more likely in Japan and China, but here we have Pine plantations that are happy to have bonsai clubs come through and dig pines after the area has been "felled". I got 2X radiata's and 1X maritime. The first radiata I got did not survive as I disturbed the root ball to much and didn't get it in one solid mass. (the sandy soil just fell away exposing roots). But the second one I dug I collected all the roots, and put in a foam box with diatomite around the soil. This was in September-October which I believe is the best time to dig Pines. Anyhow, After digging and potting it up you should mist the needles regularly eg 2-3 times a day with water, but try and avoid soaking the soil. Don't water the soil for at least a month to encourage the roots to grow searching for water. Also it should be kept in a shady spot away from strong winds. I have been told you shouldn't work on collected pines for a year after collection unless you do it at the same time as re-potting on the day of the dig.
If you want to see my trees, search "mt
crawford pine dig"
Hope to see you at the next club meeting which is the first tues of each month.
Luke
Re: Radiata dig, What next post care
Posted: March 22nd, 2012, 6:01 pm
by Booga
Olivecrazy wrote:Nice pine ive tried in the past but failed on every a temp

im thinking the ones ive had ago at have been to big

because i love there ruff bark. Would really like to get my hands on a collected pine one day no matter how far up the cliff i have to climb

Thanks for liking my pine Olly. thats good advice that Luke has given, I have 1 small one that I trunk chopped after about a month after collecting, its about 12mm at the base, but isn't it thriving
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Re: Radiata dig, What next post care
Posted: March 22nd, 2012, 6:16 pm
by Booga
Gday Luke. So if I was to trunk chop now would be the time to do it, I have had success with smaller trees and have read some where that you can burn the end of the cut to help seal the wound and that is what I have done to my small ones with a good out come.
I did do a fair but of tip pruning on the large one and waited for it to bleed for a while and then attacked it with a sigy lighter and all wounds have hardened.
Nothing ventured nothing gained if I do a big chop if I use that technique, What do members think.
Re: Radiata dig, What next post care
Posted: March 22nd, 2012, 9:31 pm
by anttal63
Booga leave it alone just water as it needs, dont starve it and keep it out of sun till winter then introduce some slowly... Nice tree with lots of low branches plenty of potential later. thanks for the pics enjoy it! Bon Scott roks !!!

Re: Radiata dig, What next post care
Posted: March 23rd, 2012, 5:58 am
by Luke308
Patience is the hardest thing to learn, but you should wait until you tree has recovered from transplant shock. I understand you are eager, and I was exactly the same. But you need to be patient, and let it recover otherwise it will turn brown and die. I think you have dug a good tree with lots of potential, but if it dies it has no potential

Maybe find some cheap pot bound nursery stuff to play with and slip pot it only teasing the roots slightly and have a play with that?? Otherwise just mist your pine and keep shaded for now and you will reap the benefits next year

Re: Radiata dig, What next post care
Posted: March 23rd, 2012, 6:40 am
by Booga
anttal63 wrote:Booga leave it alone just water as it needs, dont starve it and keep it out of sun till winter then introduce some slowly... Nice tree with lots of low branches plenty of potential later. thanks for the pics enjoy it! Bon Scott roks !!!

Seems to be a lot of Bon Scott fans on here, dose that mean we are a bunch of old grumpy bastards.
Thanks for the advice Ant it is under the pergola and i will let it rest

Re: Radiata dig, What next post care
Posted: March 23rd, 2012, 6:45 am
by Booga
Luke308 wrote:Patience is the hardest thing to learn, but you should wait until you tree has recovered from transplant shock. I understand you are eager, and I was exactly the same. But you need to be patient, and let it recover otherwise it will turn brown and die. I think you have dug a good tree with lots of potential, but if it dies it has no potential

Maybe find some cheap pot bound nursery stuff to play with and slip pot it only teasing the roots slightly and have a play with that?? Otherwise just mist your pine and keep shaded for now and you will reap the benefits next year

Patience Luke thats why I am also growing Willows, I likem

for they grow so fast and can work on them once or twice a week, that satisfies my need
to chop pinch and shape

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I will let this one settle and show the results next spring