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Head chop a JBP

Posted: October 12th, 2010, 5:35 pm
by kvan64
I was thinking of training this jbp to be in a slanting style, but then changed my mind as main trunk was too straight with no taper and the lower bar branches did not look nice at all. So a traumatic head chop was in place.

Well It was a quick and easy 30 minute chop and wiring. I keep it in this 25L pot for it to grow till next spring then transfer it to a shallower grow box (Is it too late to repot it?)
Hope that it will grow on to be a better tree in a few years to come.

Re: Head chop a JBP

Posted: October 12th, 2010, 5:54 pm
by Grant Bowie
Nice job! There should be more training of young JBP.

Grant

Re: Head chop a JBP

Posted: October 12th, 2010, 6:01 pm
by Heshian
instant bonsai. can't wait to see in in a few yrs when its established as a bonsai.
these are the kind of work that inspire me, thank you i love that little tree.

mario

Re: Head chop a JBP

Posted: October 12th, 2010, 6:03 pm
by baturb
good timing, I just repotted to bigger boxes and started initial styling of 3 of my JBP

Re: Head chop a JBP

Posted: October 12th, 2010, 6:12 pm
by Glenn C
Nice job Kvan, I really like what you did with an ugly duckling. I would have thought it was a little to warm to chop a JBP but your in Brissy so what the heck...it's never cold.
Can the repot wait a year to let it recover? It looks like it will make a nice Shohin with some feeding.

Re: Head chop a JBP

Posted: October 12th, 2010, 6:22 pm
by AndrewM
Nice work DK
Thats a great start for the pine :D I also though it would be to warm for such a chop. Did you seal the cut ?

Re: Head chop a JBP

Posted: October 12th, 2010, 6:38 pm
by kvan64
Grant Bowie wrote:Nice job! There should be more training of young JBP.

Grant
Thanks grant, I really hope that the branches will back bud closer to the trunk (I know I can't expect this to happen, just hopping). The thick wire is 6mm so it will take a bit longer to eat in the trunk but I will have to adjust the bending slowly to accommodate the lower branches, they are still too straight.
Heshian wrote:instant bonsai. can't wait to see in in a few yrs when its established as a bonsai.
these are the kind of work that inspire me, thank you i love that little tree.

mario
Thanks mario. It's a lot of fun working with bonsai trees.
baturb wrote:good timing, I just repotted to bigger boxes and started initial styling of 3 of my JBP
How is it now in Aldelaide baturb? It's started to get a bit warmer here.
Glenn C wrote:Nice job Kvan, I really like what you did with an ugly duckling. I would have thought it was a little to warm to chop a JBP but your in Brissy so what the heck...it's never cold.
Can the repot wait a year to let it recover? It looks like it will make a nice Shohin with some feeding.
Yest Glenn, I was rushing with another pine last year and it died! This pot is a 25L one so it has plendty of soil and space to grow. It can wait another year.
AndrewM wrote:Nice work DK
Thats a great start for the pine :D I also though it would be to warm for such a chop. Did you seal the cut ?
Thank Andrew, I did seal them with Japanese cut paste. Let's hope that it will be ok :)

Re: Head chop a JBP

Posted: October 12th, 2010, 6:46 pm
by Matthew
The tree is quite young with the right timing , fertiliser etc you can get black pine to bud back without too much issue i have some 20 year old ones doing it atm , ill get some pics tomorrow and yes i like what you have done with this little guy alot. Shows what can be done with good styling and relativily young but promising stock :D

Re: Head chop a JBP

Posted: October 12th, 2010, 7:46 pm
by baturb
the weather has been nice recently here in Adelaide, but heading for mid teens and showers again for the rest of the week, one of the pine gurus in the bonsai club told me to repot and style young JBP around sept-oct when the candles start to elongate, not to do it by the calender but wait for the tree to tell you when to pot, that is what I have done, repotted from pots to much larger styro boxes and wired the trunks for shape while still flexible

Re: Head chop a JBP

Posted: October 12th, 2010, 9:01 pm
by NathanM
Nice work DK!! There needs to be more work like this on young black pines, as said.

Re: Head chop a JBP

Posted: October 12th, 2010, 9:57 pm
by Deemon
How thick is the trunk below the cut?

Re: Head chop a JBP

Posted: October 12th, 2010, 10:45 pm
by kcpoole
Nice work :-)
Amazing how we remove large amounts to get more ( as in quality)

I like the adage, Less is more, and find the smallest tree within

As for repotting now, If you do not disturb the roots verry much than you could upsize into a grow box for the next year or 2

ken

Re: Head chop a JBP

Posted: October 13th, 2010, 5:31 am
by Dumper
seal the wound.

i have a jbp that have a chop like that and did not survive.

john

Re: Head chop a JBP

Posted: October 13th, 2010, 7:32 am
by kvan64
Deemon wrote:How thick is the trunk below the cut?
The trunk below the cut is 3cm and around 3.5cm near the base. The thick wire is 6mm but I think I won't attempt to put any movement in the lower section :)

Ken, I like that too.

Dumper, I used japanese cut paste but felt that it a bit too thin for the purpose. Checked this morning and it looks all right.

Re: Head chop a JBP

Posted: October 13th, 2010, 7:47 am
by Jamie
gday DK :D

very nice work! this is the start to a crack-a-lacking tree! (sorry just watched madagascar with the kids the other day :D :lol: ).

it seems like very thick wire for the size of the tree! 35mm thick with 6mm wire is solid I dont blame ya for not being able to get movement in! with such thick wire check out Graham potters vido on u tube where he styles a larch, more importantly how he uses pliers to make the bends with the wire not the actual branch, it will make for a lot eaiser styling.

look forward to seeing this one come through, it will be a very nice little shohin!

jamie :D