Again thank you all for the input and despite the "clear and normally undeniable photographic evidence" from Watto I'm going to go with Sao Tome do not flower - not even in Bungendore.
Notwithstanding
(a) is it a variety of Satsuki - I cannot find any reference to confirm that
(b) is there any expert information on Sao Tome
(c) I'm gathering it's treated like any other Azalea except the little mongrel doesn't flower
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Re: Facts about Saotome Azalea
Yes. but can be clipped more often and any time of year without worrying about sacrificing spring flowers.I'm gathering it's treated like any other Azalea
Bonsai Art lists Sao To Me as a Satsuki cultivar even though it is non flowering.
However as Satsuki translates to flowering in the 5th month then Sao to me probably shouldn't be included as it doesn't flower (much) at all. Maybe just the breeding and parents are similar to Satsuki>
In any case it doesn't really matter what group it belongs to, all azalea are very similar as far as cultivation goes.
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Re: Facts about Saotome Azalea
Whilst Saotome are considered not to flower it is not completely true,
I have been growing them for about 15 years myself and have never seen a flower.
There was someone who did have flowers on one after growing it for 12years.unfortunately he never took a photo and is long gone himself.
They are extremely good for taking cuttings anytime of the year. I have had great success in creating new plants .
What I did find though was when I originally cut this one back in a major restyle the leaves came back much larger and a totally brighter green .
It’s ready to be pruned again .
I have been growing them for about 15 years myself and have never seen a flower.
There was someone who did have flowers on one after growing it for 12years.unfortunately he never took a photo and is long gone himself.
They are extremely good for taking cuttings anytime of the year. I have had great success in creating new plants .
What I did find though was when I originally cut this one back in a major restyle the leaves came back much larger and a totally brighter green .
It’s ready to be pruned again .
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Re: Facts about Saotome Azalea
I’m liking playing around with Saotome.
Nice leaf size, they seem to develop nice Nabari by themselves and from what I’ve seen so far they are pretty tough.
I liked this twin trunk At the nursery. I spent an hour repotting with minimal root reduction and a bit of branch placement/selection. I was doing it for a Xmas gift but I like it so much im grinching it for myself
Will see what I can get out if it with some refinement over a couple of years.
Nice leaf size, they seem to develop nice Nabari by themselves and from what I’ve seen so far they are pretty tough.
I liked this twin trunk At the nursery. I spent an hour repotting with minimal root reduction and a bit of branch placement/selection. I was doing it for a Xmas gift but I like it so much im grinching it for myself

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Re: Facts about Saotome Azalea
Thanks for the information!jamesocallaghan wrote: ↑June 24th, 2023, 12:29 pm I have a number of labelled chinzan satsuki azaleas that have flowered yet(last 3 yrs), under standing using high in phosphorus fertilizer this year to try and promote flowering hopefully they are not soa tome. Any advise on getting them to flower, and has anyone else experienced this.
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Re: Facts about Saotome Azalea
Awhile back I bought the Sao To Me Azalea from Bonsai South - it’s been a real treat flowering most of the year. I’ve had a look at your posts on the species, then did a bit of searching on the internet. I found this page today https://www.pbase.com/azaleasociety/ima ... 7089/small. The flowers look exactly like the ones on my plants. Maybe someone took cuttings of the flowering branch. Anyway it’s definitely a pretty azalea.