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Re: [Tutorial] How to Develop Dynamic Figs Quickly

Posted: March 13th, 2012, 2:23 am
by The Ficus Guy
I'm curious, how long do you leave the flaps under the soil? When can you begin to expose them?

Re: [Tutorial] How to Develop Dynamic Figs Quickly

Posted: March 13th, 2012, 4:20 pm
by Pup
The longer you leave them under ground the thicker they become, once exposed to light they stop thickening as quickly as below the surface.

I have noticed some great results and unfortunately some failures. Reading I would say WET soil is more likely the problem. Moist is the key.

The Guy that originally started this, is a man called Ben Jackson, a member of the Bonsai workshop INC. He did this originally with Ficus natalensis. Which by the way he considers the superior Ficus, he went form pencil thick cuttings, to a 750ml beer bottle thick trunk in 5 years.

Members of the club have been using this method for a number of years, Ben has since moved on which is a pity.

He did how ever leave us this tutorial.

Which I am pleased to have passed on to Steven to post here.
Cheers Pup

Re: [Tutorial] How to Develop Dynamic Figs Quickly

Posted: March 14th, 2012, 4:16 am
by The Ficus Guy
Shoot. I already uncovered mine. I assume if I re-buried them again they'd thicken up, correct? My only fear with doing that is that the flaps would rot, but I guess it's like you said, keep the soil moist and they shouldn't.

Re: [Tutorial] How to Develop Dynamic Figs Quickly

Posted: March 14th, 2012, 6:33 am
by Hornet
Unfortunately it seems all of mine rotted up to where the split started, maybe messy cuts? Any all is not lost, they have some awesome root spread on them :). I have a few natalensis here, might try it with them

Re: [Tutorial] How to Develop Dynamic Figs Quickly

Posted: March 20th, 2012, 10:49 pm
by my nellie
I am a beginner and new to Ausbonsai. Thank you all for this interesting article.
The Ficus Guy wrote:Dumb question probably, but are you keeping all roots that sprout? Or do you only want to keep the roots that sprout on the flared pieces? For example, in my picture the red lines represent roots that sprout from directly under the tree, and the black roots represent the roots that sprout on the flared pieces.
I am not sure if a response to the above quote is existing somewhere and I have not find it....
I am interested too in having an aswer to the above question.
Thank you again!

Re: [Tutorial] How to Develop Dynamic Figs Quickly

Posted: March 20th, 2012, 11:04 pm
by Craig
You'll be wanting to remove all the red roots that grow straight down. Any roots that grow outwards are retained to build nebari.

Re: [Tutorial] How to Develop Dynamic Figs Quickly

Posted: March 21st, 2012, 12:07 am
by my nellie
Quite clear. Thank you!

Re: [Tutorial] How to Develop Dynamic Figs Quickly

Posted: April 1st, 2012, 1:47 pm
by The Ficus Guy
So if I re-bury the base, if it will start to push roots through the quartered sections again??

Re: [Tutorial] How to Develop Dynamic Figs Quickly

Posted: April 2nd, 2012, 6:34 am
by Andrew F
Hornet wrote:Unfortunately it seems all of mine rotted up to where the split started, maybe messy cuts? Any all is not lost, they have some awesome root spread on them :). I have a few natalensis here, might try it with them
Same here John. Iv only had one survive from it, not something ill try again.

Re: [Tutorial] How to Develop Dynamic Figs Quickly

Posted: May 23rd, 2012, 9:12 pm
by rdc
steven
This is such a helpfull thread even given the time you first posted it. I have a number of small leaf figs grown from seed & now 2 years old & will use this to fast track them.
Thanks Rod

Re: [Tutorial] How to Develop Dynamic Figs Quickly

Posted: May 23rd, 2012, 9:31 pm
by Beaumatsu2
Thank you so much we are so luck to have such an amazing forum in Australia, I haven't been on A.B for a while but has there been a native tutorial? With pictures?

Re: [Tutorial] How to Develop Dynamic Figs Quickly

Posted: June 5th, 2012, 2:53 pm
by The Ficus Guy
Probably a dumb question, but is it the flared base or the roots that come from the flared base that makes that 'dynamic' look we are trying to get by using this technique? I'm about to try it on a natalensis as I heard they have vigorous root systems. Thanks!

Re: [Tutorial] How to Develop Dynamic Figs Quickly

Posted: June 7th, 2012, 3:55 am
by The Ficus Guy
Here are the natalensis cuttings I did this technique to:

Re: [Tutorial] How to Develop Dynamic Figs Quickly

Posted: June 7th, 2012, 3:15 pm
by Dario
Hope the latest batch of cuttings goes well for you FG!
Let us know the results :tu2:
Cheers, Dario.
The Ficus Guy wrote:Probably a dumb question, but is it the flared base or the roots that come from the flared base that makes that 'dynamic' look we are trying to get by using this technique? I'm about to try it on a natalensis as I heard they have vigorous root systems. Thanks!
I assume that it is a combination of the two as they combine together and harden off. Especially since you slowly expose the roots by scraping the soil of them bit by bit over time...if that makes sense?

Re: [Tutorial] How to Develop Dynamic Figs Quickly

Posted: June 8th, 2012, 1:04 am
by The Ficus Guy
Dario wrote:Hope the latest batch of cuttings goes well for you FG!
Let us know the results :tu2:
Cheers, Dario.
The Ficus Guy wrote:Probably a dumb question, but is it the flared base or the roots that come from the flared base that makes that 'dynamic' look we are trying to get by using this technique? I'm about to try it on a natalensis as I heard they have vigorous root systems. Thanks!
I assume that it is a combination of the two as they combine together and harden off. Especially since you slowly expose the roots by scraping the soil of them bit by bit over time...if that makes sense?
Thanks Dario, that makes sense.

I think I messed up when I first tried this a while back. I didn't know that you were supposed to keep even the roots that grow in between the wedges; I just thought you kept the roots that grew from the wedges themselves (if that makes sense).

I wonder why the flaps stop thickening when exposed to light.... :lost: