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Re: Brett's Pines

Posted: April 13th, 2012, 12:06 pm
by Bretts
Luke308 wrote:Thanks for sharing Brett!! :hooray: After reading your initial thread, I sourced a copy of Bonsai Today #12, and currently have 23 seedlings growing which I too was reluctant to chop and treat as cuttings. However I did sever the tap root and spread the remaining lateral roots and re-potted into 6cm pots with Diatomite/zeolite/pine bark. I have more seeds which I will be planting later this year, and I will definitely try the cutting method. I will continue to watch this thread with interest, keep up the great work :tu: :tu:
Well done Luke :clap: Keep on the look out for JBP that you can collect some seed from as the fresher they are the better germination you will get.

Re: Brett's Pines

Posted: April 23rd, 2012, 11:01 am
by Bretts
Even though it is a month or so early I decided it was best to get in and cut the top off all the pines in the small pots as it was getting to difficult to find the pots to water under all the trunks. I will leave the ones in the larger pots for another month or so.
I found some of the shapes from wiring as a whip interesting. Some will be more challenging than others to find a plan but I think all will have a future :fc:
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Re: Brett's Pines

Posted: April 23rd, 2012, 11:18 am
by Jow
Looking good Brett, you should have some interesting trees there in a few more years.

Did you leave the wire on the trunks or did you let it scarr then remove it?

Re: Brett's Pines

Posted: April 23rd, 2012, 11:45 am
by Bretts
Most of these here had the wire left on but I also have just as many that I took the wire off. They are not as big yet but you can see some examples on the previos page. :wave:

Re: Brett's Pines

Posted: April 23rd, 2012, 12:12 pm
by Jow
Bretts wrote:Most of these here had the wire left on but I also have just as many that I took the wire off. They are not as big yet but you can see some examples on the previos page. :wave:
So the wire has accelerated the thickening? It will be interesting if the scars heal differently down the track on the wire left on ones and the wire off ones.

Re: Brett's Pines

Posted: April 23rd, 2012, 12:24 pm
by Scott Roxburgh
Yes it will be interesting to see if the bark forms differently?

Re: Brett's Pines

Posted: April 23rd, 2012, 12:32 pm
by Jow
In Japan i saw trees that had wire inside them and you couldnt tell at all, but those trees were as thick as my leg... it will be interesting to see how they go on smaller trees.

Re: Brett's Pines

Posted: April 23rd, 2012, 1:53 pm
by Bretts
I think the first I heard about allowing the tree to swallow the wire was on Lindsay's World of Bonsai. The trees where massive and the grower was pointing out where the wire scars where. Buggerd if I could see them but yes I expected to have to grow them pretty large to get rid of the wire scars but the largest one is looking pretty good and I reckon by the time it barks up it will be hard to see.I like the shape of this one at the moment and I think I will start to develop it as a bonsai next season. First step will be to have the top removed and a new leader chosen by spring.
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I also used various size wire as I just used offcuts on hand. Next time I would be more selective with the wire I use and the bends I put in. Looser bends with thick wire for large trees and thin wire with tighter bends for shohin.
There are so many ways to grow pine from seed. I plan to do a few with exposed roots like Ray Nesci showed us. :fc:

Re: Brett's Pines

Posted: July 22nd, 2012, 4:37 pm
by Bretts
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That was Fun I hope you are not disappointed Bodi :fc:
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Time to reduce those needles and a new pot. Also a bit of carving/jins

Re: Brett's Pines

Posted: July 22nd, 2012, 4:56 pm
by Bretts
See the begining of this tree here
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Re: Brett's Pines

Posted: July 22nd, 2012, 5:24 pm
by bodhidharma
Bretts wrote:That was Fun I hope you are not disappointed Bodi
Not so far, it is looking great. :tu: I reckon the lat piccy is your front :?: Am i right ..Am i right ..huh :?:

Re: Brett's Pines

Posted: July 22nd, 2012, 5:43 pm
by kcpoole
Nice recovery Brett :yes:
Put in a round pot and you can change the front whenever you like :-)

Ken

Re: Brett's Pines

Posted: July 22nd, 2012, 6:00 pm
by Bretts
kcpoole wrote:Nice recovery Brett :yes:
Put in a round pot and you can change the front whenever you like :-)

Ken
Like ;)

Re: Brett's Pines

Posted: July 23rd, 2012, 3:02 pm
by Bretts
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Re: Brett's Pines

Posted: July 23rd, 2012, 7:24 pm
by Scott Roxburgh
I was hoping you'd post some more of the ones raised from seed.

I'd like to see some of the root bases a few years after the cutting technique :?: