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Re: Jacaranda Test Type
Posted: May 23rd, 2012, 9:08 pm
by Beaumatsu2
Love the jaca five of five looks great nice nebari!
Re: Jacaranda Test Type
Posted: May 25th, 2012, 12:50 pm
by fiveoffive
Update for hackimoto and beaumatsue2
The Nebari needs alot of work. I'm quite new to bonsai so a lot of my trees are test types, but with a lot of help some live and grow quite well.
I Have uploaded some more photos of the roots and leaves. Any constructive criticism or ideas ?
JacarandaNewGrow.jpg
JacarandaNewGrow01.jpg
JacarandaNewGrow02.jpg
If any questions just post or pm
Re: Jacaranda Test Type
Posted: May 25th, 2012, 12:56 pm
by squizzy
I agree with hakimoto in saying that this is not a jacaranda but I am happy to be proven wrong. I think it has a totally different leaf structure myself.
I dont think its an elm either.
I am going to look at it some more and give my opinion on the id
Squizz
Re: Jacaranda Test Type
Posted: May 25th, 2012, 1:03 pm
by squizzy
Could it be a indigofera?
Squizz
Re: Jacaranda Test Type
Posted: May 25th, 2012, 1:29 pm
by fiveoffive
Good Question.
It was sold to me as a jacaranda (pot plant) even had one of tho little tag things, now long lost.
I googled Indigofera and the leaves looks kinda the same but the flowers are nothing alike.
If its not a Jacaranda and not a indigofera i have no idea
I dont realy know to much about plants other then i like to grow them. If all ell's fails at the end of the next growing season i will post more images and we can see what it looks like after a full season.
Re: Jacaranda Test Type
Posted: May 25th, 2012, 1:41 pm
by Hackimoto
That closer pic shows that it is not a Jac or an elm or an Indigofera decora as the latter never get a thick trunk a this one has. My best guess is that it might be a Robinia, ( Robinia pseudoacacia) which would have white or sometimes pink, small wisteria-like flowers. Indigofera decora tends to sucker and form running clumps, not form a main thick trunk. The only other alternative is that it is another species of Jacaranda with a broader leaf called Port Wine Jacaranda (Jac. semiserrata.) but I don't think so as the leaflets are not pointed enough. Best bet is Robinia or another species of Indicofera that grows into a small tree.. Has it flowered for you yet?
Re: Jacaranda Test Type
Posted: May 25th, 2012, 1:47 pm
by squizzy
I think one of the keys in I'd might be that the leaves seem to be alternate rather than opposite. Can you confirm this five o
Squizz
Re: Jacaranda Test Type
Posted: May 25th, 2012, 2:19 pm
by fiveoffive
Just checked they are opposite.
I been looking in my plant photos and its the only dam tree i dont have photos of.
the flowers are purple and small ish its was a tree not a bush from what i remember.
Re: Jacaranda Test Type
Posted: May 25th, 2012, 2:47 pm
by squizzy
Are you sure fiveo. I mean the leaf and not the leaflets. The leaf is made up of the stem with leaflets coming off that. I can see on the section of new growth that you are holding in the photo that it looks quite obvious it's alternate.
Squizz
Re: Jacaranda Test Type
Posted: May 25th, 2012, 3:04 pm
by Hackimoto
This is what I think it is.

Having worked in the nursery industry most of my working life, I know that plants are not always what they are labelled. Tags are knocked or are blown off plants and someone, staff or customers, comes along and put it back on the wrong plant.
Re: Jacaranda Test Type
Posted: May 25th, 2012, 5:48 pm
by squizzy
I am not too sure of the trunk size thing. I would have guessed indigofera australis being that it possibly came up as a weed in a nursery pot and got labelled a jacaranda?
Anyway that would be my guess. Hackimoto do you think the root mass looks like a typical robinia? I would say its normally more woody.
Cheers
Squizz
Re: Jacaranda Test Type
Posted: May 25th, 2012, 6:08 pm
by Hackimoto
Hard to say as the soil level has been lowered so much. The roots actually look more like mulberry in their colour and structure. (but I know it isn't)
Re: Jacaranda Test Type
Posted: May 25th, 2012, 6:27 pm
by MattA
I think your on the money Hackimoto, the giveaway is the thorns...
Re: Jacaranda Test Type
Posted: October 13th, 2012, 8:57 pm
by fiveoffive
An Update
jack001.jpg
Starting to get there many years to go tho.
Re: Jacaranda Test Type
Posted: October 13th, 2012, 10:33 pm
by Hackimoto
Thanks for the update, I still think that it is a pink Robinia
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=pink ... iQeP94D4DQ Especially seeing that Robinias flower in late Sept or October.